Rail Delivery Group removing jargon from tickets

[island]

In the current world, that’s valid by the through train rule.

 

[Kite159]

For the majority of normal travellers from York heading to London they would use the ECML towards Kings Cross rather than the weekend daily EMT service due to journey time.

 

[Haywain]

For the majority of normal travellers from York heading to London they would use the ECML towards Kings Cross rather than the weekend daily EMT service due to journey time.

Yes, but from experience a good number would like to break their journey at somewhere like Leicester or Nottingham which require travelling to/from St Pancras

 

[JB_B]

In the current world, that’s valid by the through train rule.

True but you don't need to take a direct train - it's a mapped route.

 

[JB_B]

Another example - Edinburgh should have eight London Terminals defined for route 00000 (any permitted)
Paddington
Marylebone
Euston
St Pancras
Kings Cross
Moorgate
Old Street
Liverpool Street

but only

Kings Cross
Moorgate
Old Street

are shown.



Bradford (Interchange and Forster Square) have *no* defined London terminal which is clearly nonsense.

 

[TPO]

There is a consultation

https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/EasierFaresConsultation

"Fares designed so that it is unnecessary to buy a ‘split-ticket’ in order to get the cheapest deal. At present, there are occasions when it is cheaper, when making a journey from A to C, to buy two or more separate tickets e.g. two tickets (A-B and B-C) may be cheaper than one ticket (A-C).

If this were changed those who currently buy split tickets may pay a little more whereas those who currently buy through tickets may pay a little less."

A 'little more' is obviously a blatant lie, as in the example of £30 + £30 and £100, the median fare would be £80, which is not 'a little', and moreover it is hard to see how you could eliminate split ticketing without having punitive regulations based on the start and end of a journey, as some fares are presumably always going to be much cheaper due to regional subsidies etc. And it doesn't seem likely that they would drastically cut fares on fat cat high-priced lines.

Clearly the solution is to reduce the cost of the through tickets such that the split tickets are no longer so compelling, however this does not seem likely.

I suspect what will actually happen is what happens now when a "split" becomes too well-known/used..... i.e. prices will be altered upwards so the split tickets costs are same as direct ticket (and TOC of course gets more income). This happened on the GWR not too long ago- the "classic" spilt at Didcot on a journey between Bristol/Cardiff and Paddington. There are still some good splits (Swindon/Reading) on these routes, essential to make tickets affordable as GWR prices for anything except seasons tickets are eye-watering. For occasional journeys, I can see it being worth driving from Bristol to Reading and getting the SWR service into Waterloo if GWR continue increasing fares- and with the current poor reliability of the services the drive to Reading option looks increasingly good (parking costs same at Bristol or Reading) especially with the tolls coming off the Severn crossings next year.

(Cynical, me? Nah, course not!)

TPO

 

[Deerfold]

Could they not simply do what OwlMan's spreadsheet says, and write:
"London: KGX/MOG/OLD/STP/LST"

The three-letter codes are sensible, and easily searchable.

You're still using nearly twice as much space for the destination as on many current tickets unless everything's going to use much smaller fonts or the "new" ticket format is actually going to make it everywhere.