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[furnessvale]

Isn't there some sort of weight limit on the bridge which, in MGR days, reduced overall train length?

 

[hwl]

I had a look at a weeks worth of RTT and didn’t find any obvious traffic in or out of the Millbrook terminal, does anyone know if it should have its own location and timing point in RTT?

It is also worth bearing in mind that MCT is capable of (more easily) handling 775m trains after the recent upgrades which will have reduced the need to use Millbrook.

It is also a slightly quiet time of year for containers with slightly fewer shipping having left the far east during the long CNY holiday and ships avoiding the UK due to the knock on effects of the Felixstowe problems.

 

[stantheman]

Oxwellmains to Seaham running today , first time for ages

What’s become of the new Doncaster to Elderslie, has been very infrequent .

 

[Esker-pades]

Southampton Line Closures Leaflet (networkrail.co.uk)

Following the completion of the infrastructure works in February - have intermodal freights in and out of Southampton now been lengthened from 530 to 775 metres. Has demand expanded to fill the space or is that a work in progress?

The Dec '21 timetable is when the first set of paths to/from Southampton get uplifted. There may be very few max-length services already (as @swt_passenger and @hwl have indicated), but it'll be from the Dec '21 change that there are a significant number of WTT paths. It will take a few changes to get every* service uplifted.

 

[172007]

New flow from MOD Kineton to Ashchurch, 6V34 via Birmingham Snow Hill. M to F in May timetable change.

Return via Kemble and Didcot.

How often it will run will remain to be seen.

 

[3973EXL]

New flow from MOD Kineton to Ashchurch, 6V34 via Birmingham Snow Hill. M to F in May timetable change.

Return via Kemble and Didcot.

How often it will run will remain to be seen.

Only a Q path - run as required - like most of the others listed for Kineton

Realtime Trains - Departures from Kineton Mod Gbrf

 

[ABB125]

New flow from MOD Kineton to Ashchurch, 6V34 via Birmingham Snow Hill. M to F in May timetable change.

Return via Kemble and Didcot.

How often it will run will remain to be seen.

Only a Q path - run as required - like most of the others listed for Kineton

Realtime Trains - Departures from Kineton Mod Gbrf

And like the current path into Ashchurch from Didcot!
Shame, I'd have hoped for something regular.

 

[ExRes]

Following on from last weeks DCR route learning there are STP paths in from Willesden to Bristol Freightliner Terminal and return for tomorrow, reported to be for stone that will be brought in by lorry from Flax Bourton

 

[Donny_m]

There’s been a light loco going back and forth between Bristol Freightliner and Bristol East depot today* - a good 8-10 times. Only thing I can think is driver training for the recent new Stone trains into the freightliner terminal.

*RTT says light loco, can’t be bothered to walk up the road to check.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

There’s been a light loco going back and forth between Bristol Freightliner and Bristol East depot today* - a good 8-10 times. Only thing I can think is driver training for the recent new Stone trains into the freightliner terminal.

*RTT says light loco, can’t be bothered to walk up the road to check.

66556.

 

[Oxfordblues]

I'm sure Barrie Hughes won't mind me copying this from his unofficial Welsh Highland Railway website:

ROG's No.37800 was hired as a Crewe-Holyhead route learner on 12/4/21 in preparation for renewed stone traffic from Penmaenmawr. GBRf has won the haulage contract and there will be two loaded outbound trains a day SuX from 17/5/21. One 'jumbo' return working of empty wagons is envisaged. The orange army was out in Penmaenmawr yard after Easter clearing vegetation and rehabilitating the track. This will mean the welcome return of revenue earning freight to the North Wales coast Line after 2 years of absence since the Wylfa nuclear waste traffic ceased. The other scheme to restart freight from Llandudno Junction Yard has yet to make any progress.

 

[Freightmaster]

I'm sure Barrie Hughes won't mind me copying this from his unofficial Welsh Highland Railway website:

...This will mean the welcome return of revenue earning freight to the North Wales coast Line after 2 years of absence since the Wylfa nuclear waste traffic ceased. The other scheme to restart freight from Llandudno Junction Yard has yet to make any progress.

Just a minor correction - the Wylfa(Valley) train still runs occasionally;
the last run being just ten days ago on Friday April 2nd:

Realtime Trains - 685Q 1507 Valley Nuclear Electric to Crewe Coal Sidings (Drs)

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

MARK

 

[Puppetfinger]

And like the current path into Ashchurch from Didcot!
Shame, I'd have hoped for something regular.

And like the current path into Ashchurch from Didcot!
Shame, I'd have hoped for something regular

March 2019 was I believe the last train into Ashchurch MOD.

 

[ABB125]

March 2019 was I believe the last train into Ashchurch MOD.

Somehow I missed that one; before it, I think the last might have been 2013-ish?

 

[stantheman]

Up for an insomniac glass of wine at this hour of the morning and spotted a pic on Flickr of a SAND working from Tinsley to Tyne Dock . Anyone got more info , is this a special , was said to be Tuesday only

 

[furnessvale]

Up for an insomniac glass of wine at this hour of the morning and spotted a pic on Flickr of a SAND working from Tinsley to Tyne Dock . Anyone got more info , is this a special , was said to be Tuesday only

I understood it was sand from Tyne Dock to Tinsley and a new flow, albeit not daily.

 

[waverley47]

There was a trip working from Inverness to Georgemas this afternoon. DRS operated, with one container flat, and one container.

Was this a trial or just a route proving run?

 

[ANTONOV 12BP]

According to RTT & Railcam, paths have been filed for a new GBRF intermodal service from Felixstowe - Doncaster vice-versa for next week. To my understanding, this new GBRF service is just a current takeover of the ongoing Freightliner contract, as the timetable published is more or less identical to the one that Freightliner has in use.

RTT: Felixstowe - Doncaster [Railport] GBRF https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H00036/2021-05-04/detailed

RTT: Doncaster [Railport] - Felixstowe GBRF https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H00035/2021-05-04/detailed

 

[GB]

Train is going to Tinsley. Don’t think Freightliner went there before.

 

[Freightmaster]

Train is going to Tinsley.

First train is due to run next Wednesday in a similar path to the Doncaster Railport schedule:

Realtime Trains - 4E53 0538 Felixstowe North Gbrf to Tinsley Yard Gbrf

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www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Don’t think Freightliner went there before.

No, but I understand that FL will also be running trains to/from Tinsley in a few weeks time!




MARK

 

[ANTONOV 12BP]

Just a quick update regarding the new GBRF working:

66747 is scheduled to take the honours for the first GBRF working, albeit the service is departing from Peterborough Virtual as opposed to Doncaster for today.

Realtime Trains - 4L53 1910 Peterborough Virtual Gbrf to Felixstowe North Gbrf

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

It seems like they have chosen to retain the original Freightliner timetable after all!

Also something that is less concerning and more related to FL side of things, a new timetable has now been established by RTT for the Freightliner Doncaster Intermodal service that is now scheduled to take place from Ipswich instead.

Realtime Trains - 400Q 0544 Ipswich S.S. to Doncaster Ept (F'liners)

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[muddythefish]

Twitter link to first train from new intermodal terminal at Tinsley with second service to follow

https://twitter.com/markbridel/status/1389926002038648832/photo/1

Always love it when a new rail terminal opens.
@newellwright
at Tinsley this morning which I’m proud to have been a part of making it happen. More freight off the roads to come with a second daily service starting next week

 

[Spartacus]

Isn't there some sort of weight limit on the bridge which, in MGR days, reduced overall train length?

The only restriction I can recall from my days planning freight over was that loadeds had to be a Class 7, regardless of speed, as two weren't allowed to pass on the bridge. This caused some confusion on long distance stuff which was capable of higher speeds, but would be regulated as if it was only 45mph.

 

[stantheman]

On the subject of Tinsley area , is any part of the former yard still in use and how do I get to the site by public transport ?

 

[Freightmaster]

...I understand that FL will also be running trains to/from Tinsley in a few weeks time!

First Freightliner train is running today, sooner than I expected!

4E82 - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H04462/2021-05-11/detailed
4L09 - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H04507/2021-05-11/detailed




MARK

 

[BR 45111]

First Freightliner train is running today, sooner than I expected!

4E82 - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H04462/2021-05-11/detailed
4L09 - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H04507/2021-05-11/detailed




MARK

Hi Mark
Is this a completely new service or a divert from elsewhere ?

regards
Marcus

 

[Red Onion]

I see that there is a new ‘Q’ path has appeared for 6M04 Elgin Yard to Carlisle, which appears to be an MoD train. There’s paths Monday to Thursday from what I can see. Can anyone shed any light?

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H02033/2021-05-17/detailed

 

[Richard P]

There's been discussion elsewhere on the forum in the past in relation to freight (and especially logging trains) on the West Highland line. Up in Fort William last week I was intrigued to see this movement planned: (7Y04) Realtime Trains - 7Y04 1340 Corpach Pulp Mill to Fort William J.Yd T.C.
Having seen it activated on the day I decide to make the short trip over to Corpach to see what it was as it only runs as far as Fort William Yard. In the end despite being activated it didn't run and that seems to be the case every day it is scheduled. So two quick questions:
1. Does anyone know what this schedule is for and
2. Has it/does it ever run?

 

[stantheman]

There's been discussion elsewhere on the forum in the past in relation to freight (and especially logging trains) on the West Highland line. Up in Fort William last week I was intrigued to see this movement planned: (7Y04) Realtime Trains - 7Y04 1340 Corpach Pulp Mill to Fort William J.Yd T.C.
Having seen it activated on the day I decide to make the short trip over to Corpach to see what it was as it only runs as far as Fort William Yard. In the end despite being activated it didn't run and that seems to be the case every day it is scheduled. So two quick questions:
1. Does anyone know what this schedule is for and
2. Has it/does it ever run?

It never runs

 

[Oxfordblues]

The only traffic I can think of is imported loco coal for the Jacobite brought into Corpach by ship, but I guess it's normally delivered by road.