Rail replacement buses - stops other than stations

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I note on the temporary timetable for the Settle-Carlisle that one rail replacement bus each day from Carlisle to Skipton will be calling to drop passengers off at Kirkby Stephen Town Centre and Hawes Market Place.

The Hawes call is interesting in particular; I presume it's there as they've decided that the bus can't do the narrow moors road over Garsdale Common.

Are there any other examples of non-station calls being formalised in this way? I can imagine it's the sort of thing that a lot of drivers will do informally, but it's interesting to see it in the timetable.
 
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The Hawes call is interesting in particular; I presume it's there as they've decided that the bus can't do the narrow moors road over Garsdale Common.

You wouldn't easily get a bus over the Coal Road from Garsdale to Dent Station, so it makes sense since the bus will have to go through Hawes anyway. IIRC they used to do that when RRBs ran that way.

I've seen similar on the Tyne Valley, where they'll stop in Brampton town centre rather than out at Brampton station.
 

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Yes, sensible and of course necessary where access is difficult. However, the location of the stops should be properly advertised at stations.
 

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Yes, sensible and of course necessary where access is difficult. However, the location of the stops should be properly advertised at stations.

funny you should say that -After much complaining we have finally got a poster at Fenny Stratford telling people where the replacement bus stops ( there is difficult road access & 2 entrances which confuses people)

next task: Get the bus driver to actually stop!
 

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I note on the temporary timetable for the Settle-Carlisle that one rail replacement bus each day from Carlisle to Skipton will be calling to drop passengers off at Kirkby Stephen Town Centre and Hawes Market Place.

The Hawes call is interesting in particular; I presume it's there as they've decided that the bus can't do the narrow moors road over Garsdale Common.

Are there any other examples of non-station calls being formalised in this way? I can imagine it's the sort of thing that a lot of drivers will do informally, but it's interesting to see it in the timetable.

Two that I know of are Stone, replacement buses call here at Granville Square which is a 10-15 minute walk from the station but more central to Stone itself.

Furthermore, replacement buses on the Redditch branch in Alvechurch call here at The Red Lion pub in the village, rather than at the station itself which is on a fairly tight road with no public bus stop. Again that's a 15-20 minute walk from the station.
 

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Baildon station has always had it advertised that RRBs will not call at the station due to narrow surrounding roads / tight car park, but instead would stop a a bus stop on Otley Road (A6038) opposite the Halfway House pub. However, anyone not familiar with the route between the station and this particular bus stop might find themselves getting easily lost as there isn't a particulally straight route to take through the residential area around the station.
 

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Some years ago, I took a rail replacement bus in West Wales.

It was on a Sunday morning or afternoon, probably from Swansea westwards, although I can't remember any firm details. I do know, though, that we didn't go to all the stations because it was physically impossible for the bus to get there. Instead, we stopped on the main road and at least once the driver walked down to the station (it wasn't too far) to see if there was anyone there waiting for the train. It seemed that this was a regular practice for that route.
 

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When the Seaford branch is bustituted, Southease village is served rather than the station, which is the other side of the River Ouse via a pedestrian bridge and a country walk.

There's no issue with vehicular access, in this instance, as the station is actually on the better road: the A26.
 

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Pre-planned bustitution for Slaithwaite and Marsden serve stops on Manchester Road rather than the stations. Buses arranged in an emergency for unforseen disruption do tend to run via the stations.
 

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Several years ago a late-night service from Kings Cross to Hertford North had a replacement bus from Gordon Hill. I wanted Bayford. The village is more than half a mile from the station. The driver kindly stopped for me outside the pub in Bayford where I was staying. Later, I discovered that I'd mis-read the timetable on-line - it was not very clearly reproduced on a computer screen - and that the Bayford call for the replacement bus only applied on Friday night. I'd travelled on Thursday. I thought I did rather well out of that.
 

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I only serve the designated rail replacement bus stops. Not doing so causes aggro for other drivers when passengers come to the front and say 'well the other driver let me off here'.
Why is it that rail replacement bus passengers seem to think they don't need to buy a ticket even at a staffed station?
 

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The S and C stops are very unusual, because they do not replace stops at stations (unlike the others quoted so far). The bus extension south of Appleby is SX. Kirkby Stephen centre is on the RRB route, while Hawes centre is only slightly off route.

I don't recall either being served before, but it seems a very sensible way of avoiding the problem flagged up by notadriver. As does making them set down only.
 

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Rail replacement buses from Sheffield do not depart from the rail station. They depart from the bus station (aka Interchange) using the stand which is the furthest possible away from the rail station. Although the Interchange is signed from the rail station it is not visible from there.

I only serve the designated rail replacement bus stops. Not doing so causes aggro for other drivers when passengers come to the front and say 'well the other driver let me off here'.

When there used to be a bus stop outside the rail station at Sheffield (there isn't now) rows occurred when passengers who knew of it were driven past on the replacement bus before being deposited in the bus station 400 yards away.
 
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When the line was closed between Trowbridge and Bath last year, local rail replacement buses operated between Bath bus station and Bradford On Avon railway station serving 'Freshford Village' and 'Upper Westwood' vice Freshford and Avoncliff. Avoncliff itself wouldn't be possible to get a bus to so passengers that required this station were sent in taxis from B-O-A.
 

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Not sure if this is still the case, but at Sankey for Penketh the RRBs could not turn in the Station Yard, nor on Station Road, so used to call at the bus stops either side of the crossroads, where the Police Station was situated.
 

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There are a lot of small stations from both Hull and Grimsby area,s where a bus can,t get to the station or if they did they can, t turn round again so they stop on the nearest main road to suit. Most station have a poster saying where the rail replacement buses call for that station.

Its the hazards of stations been built over 100 years ago and access roads no longer able to cope with anything other than cars these days or the access road blocked by people living down the roads cars only leaving room for one car to pass and no turning area anymore.
 

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The Derby - Matlock service is replaced by buses on Sundays at the moment.

The bus travels up the A6 road from Derby but it's unable to call at Cromford station because it's located quite some distance from the main road and it would be impossible to turn a bus round in the station approach.

The RRB stops at the crossroads on the A6 which is probably far more convenient for local passengers than the station is.
 

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Thanks all - interesting stuff.

Seems it's quite rare for these stops to be timetabled, but quite common for them to occur. I'm reminded of an RRB via Chester-le-Street which reversed up Station Road in the town for the 200 yards uphill from the final access roundabout - entertaining stuff on the bus, but I'm sure everyone would have been happier stopping in the town cenre!
 
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