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Discussion in 'UK Railway Discussion' started by Jorge Da Silva, 4 Sep 2018.
Except I doubt John Lewis will be paying one this year, based on their first 6 months.
My fingers or the autocorrect, sorry.
What with Aviva and Areva, life's too complicated!
Leaving aside some people's imaginations of how great BR was ( I still remember being stuck on a failed London-Manchester train for three hours back in the late 60s) what changes do people realistically think will come out of this review?
We could see move decentralisation and more control of services to TfN and TfL.
More decentralisation is currently being seen as a good thing. And so the wheel turns...
I just thought it was Bristolian for Arriva.
Just a thought. If everything serving Scotland or Wales were devolved to the Scottish government and Welsh assembly to join ScotRail and Wales & Borders respectively, and everything serving London were devolved to the Mayor and added to London Overground, how much rail would remain in central government control?
Chris Grayling has announced the names of the challenge panel to work with Keith Williams on the Rail Review, and its terms of reference:
Some of these will be well known on the railway, others not.
Dick Fearn is a long-time rail manager in the UK and Ireland.
Tom Harris was a (Labour) junior Transport Minister who seemed to know his brief.
This was in the 2 years immediately preceding Andrew Adonis' appointment, just after the Eddington Report was produced, and also just after the abolition of the SRA.
Terms of reference:
Apart from the list of things it will not review, I don't believe fares come into their purlieu either.
It sounds like major changes are on the way and its good GTR has improved since the timetable problems under new leadership
I don't imagine BR being great either. But neither do I imagine the current setup as being noticeably better, even after all the taxpayers' money thrown at it. If BR had continued the way it was going from the early 90s, but given the same amount of public money as our 'privatised' network things would be significantly better than they are now.
I can't believe the ideological blinkers Grayling has. No matter what happens it's Public bad, Private good.
Even Solomon would have been unable to answer some of the challenges this review has been given
commercial models for the provision of rail services that prioritise the interests of passengers and taxpayers
a system that is financially sustainable and able to address long-term cost pressures
a railway that is able to offer good value fares for passengers, while keeping costs down for taxpayers
improved industrial relations, to reduce disruption and improve reliability for passengers
You can attempt (and fail) to prove anything with anecdotes such as this. When Virgin took over the WCML their performance went to bits to the extent that I started getting a train an hour before the one I wanted just in case. I also seem to remember that soon after the Pendolinos were introduced one failed somewhere near Cheadle Hulme and was stuck for about 7 hours .... but I can't find any proof of that to be fair. Does it prove that BR was better? No - but much of the criticism of BR was,is and always will be totally biased and generally ignored the lack of resources that they were given in comparison to the money that is doled out today in the annual grant to Network rail.
And yet VTWC has evolved into a generally fairly competent operation, with the exception of matters relating to ticket validity at the Euston barriers.
Never said they hadn't!!! (Although I dislike the Virgin group as a whole for reasons which have no place on this forum).
I was merely pointing out that BR was not the paragon of excellence that some posters have portrayed in this and other threads. Just like the existing TOCs they had equipment failures, process failures and customer service failures. However the TOCs is what we have now and frankly that's unlikely to change too much. At most I could see rail provison moving closer to the situation in Scotland with a limited number of TOCs compared to the current numbers.