Railcards on rangers and rovers

[ian13]

Quick question: are rangers and rovers still subject to the minimum fare before 10am when purchased with a railcard?

 

[district]

Is there a particular rover or ranger you are thinking of? I am trying to find a ranger which (a) allows railcard discounts and then (b) has a discounted price of under £12...

Edit: The 'Cumbrian Coast Day Ranger', for example, costs £18. National Rail Enquiries makes no mention of the restrictions imposed on Senior, 16-25 or Disabled Persons railcards, but does say that

In addition Family & Friends Railcard discounts 34% adult and 81% child are permitted subject to the conditions of the Railcard being met.

This isn't much help in the case of the minimum fare of £12, so I looked at the Terms & Conditions for the 16-25 railcard:

However, for all journeys made at or before 10 am Monday to Friday a minimum fare applies. (The exceptions are when you travel at weekends, on Public Holidays, or during July and August).

Even though you are using a rover or ranger, you are still making a journey. I believe that the restrictions do still apply.

 

[ian13]

Is there a particular rover or ranger you are thinking of? I am trying to find a ranger which (a) allows railcard discounts and then (b) has a discounted price of under £12...

The Heart of Wessex Day Ranger comes to mind.

 

[district]

See my post above, but the discounted price for that fare would be £10.50 (if my Avantix discount calculator has worked that out correctly).

 

[lemonic]

I believe that the minimum fare does not apply for rovers and rangers, for example Anglia Plus. The National Rail Enquiries website does not apply a minimum fare to this before 10am e.g. search Ipswich-Norwich 9:08 departure on a weekday with a 16-25 Railcard and this is the suggested ticket. If the minimum fare does not apply to one ranger/rover then I would extrapolate that to suggest this is the case for all rangers/rovers.

 

[bb21]

There is nothing in the Manual to suggest that the minimum fare is applicable to the Heart of Wessex Day Ranger.

 

[district]

This is a difficult question, as different rovers have different restrictions.

 

[bb21]

Agreed.

 

[district]

I am on the phone to NRE now - will update when I get off the phone.
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NRE were no help, and Chris Scoggins (Chief Exec of NRE) isn't at his desk.