Railway Pubs

[DJH1971]

There used to be one right next to Patricroft station

 

[Strat-tastic]

Micropub, even.

Curse predictive text.

maybe they want to shout about it.

 

[AndrewE]

The former Nexus travel centre on the main concourse (underground) of the Tyne & Wear Metro 's Monument station is being converted to a microphone.

I was going to ask whether that should have been in the jokes thread & I just didn't get it! With a bit of work I suppose it might be...

 

[och aye]

The former Nexus travel centre on the main concourse (underground) of the Tyne & Wear Metro 's Monument station is being converted to a microphone.

 

[Leslie Fletcher]

There used to be one right next to Patricroft station

There still is.

 

[AndrewE]

There still is.

Thanks for the tip... that picture is from 10 years ago so I checked up on https://whatpub.com/search?q=patric...47&r=10&t=s&p=1&features=PubClub,Open,RealAle
It says

Queens Arms

(also known as Top House, formerly Patricroft Tavern)
Opening Times

Monday 7.00 pm - 11.00 pm
Tuesday 7.00 pm - 11.00 pm
Wednesday 7.00 pm - 11.00 pm
Thursday 7.00 pm - 11.00 pm
Friday 5.00 pm - 11.00 pm
Saturday Midday - Midnight
Sunday Midday - 11.00 pm

Owner: Patron Capital

About the Pub
Traditional pub, listed at the instigation of the local CAMRA branch. Built in 1828 in readiness for the opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway, it lays claim to be the world's first railway pub. Three unspoilt rooms are served from a central bar. These are well cared for by proud licensees. Won Salford CAMRA branch ‘Neil Richardson’ award for a fine example of a traditional unspoilt pub in 2010 and 2016. Grade II listed. Known locally as the 'Top House'.

Historic Interest: Grade II listed, world's first main line railway pub.

I feel the need to visit, but it looks like a weekend trip out!

 

[Mutant Lemming]

If you fancy a decent pint that is a short walk from Moorfields station in Liverpool there is the Excelsior and the Ship & Mitre http://www.theshipandmitre.com/ which are virtually next door to each other.

Much closer to Moorfields and in the shadow of the old Exchange station façade is The Lion - an excellent old school pub with a separate 'newsroom' and good ales.
http://www.theliontavernliverpool.co.uk/index

 

[gcmozart]

Anything recommended for Dundee - pre sleeper for a couple of hours on a Sunday night?

 

[Mutant Lemming]

Anything recommended for Dundee - pre sleeper for a couple of hours on a Sunday night?

Depends on what you are after. I found Dundee pretty poor on the pub front (Broughty Ferry being a lot better) but one I found not too bad if you like old school Scottish bars was The Pheonix on Nethergate about a 10 min walk from the station.

 

[CaptainHaddock]

Anything recommended for Dundee - pre sleeper for a couple of hours on a Sunday night?

When I was in Dundee last month I found the Bank Bar to be very good and served an excellent pint of Jarl. It's about two minutes, walk just across the A991 road from the station.

https://whatpub.com/pubs/TAY/1/bank-bar-dundee

 

[DuncanS]

Trades House, just up the road from the Bank.

 

[Lucan]

The Steam, in Clifton Down's old station building.

 

[camflyer]

I passed through Liverpool St at the weekend and saw they had an Opening Soon sign outside a new Fullers pub on the mezzanine level. The area isn't short of watering holes but it's always nice to have a little more choice.

 

[Paul’s]

Just followed up on a recommendation of a place to drop for a glass of red wine, while I was in the area.

The Old Stationhouse, Irlam Train Station, Irlam.

 

[AndrewE]

I passed through Liverpool St at the weekend and saw they had an Opening Soon sign outside a new Fullers pub on the mezzanine level. The area isn't short of watering holes but it's always nice to have a little more choice.

That will soon be "Fullers."
See https://www.camra.org.uk/press_rele...he-sale-of-fullers-brewing-business-to-asahi/ which starts

Campaign for Real Ale statement in response to the sale of the Fuller’s brewing business to Asahi.

CAMRA chairman Jackie Parker said: "CAMRA is always concerned about any consolidation in the brewing industry as it could result in a reduction in choice, value for money and quality for beer drinkers. We're also wary of one company increasingly controlling a larger and larger share of the market, which is seldom beneficial for consumers”.

“Fuller's has been a family brewer in Britain for more than a hundred years, and it’s a very sad day to see such a well-known, historic and respected name exit the brewing business.

“It would be very disappointing to see the character of Fuller’s beers change as a result of the deal.

 

[Mikey C]

Fullers are building a nice portfolio of railway pubs in London. Paddington, 2 at Euston, Kings Cross and next Liverpool St

 

[camflyer]

Fullers are building a nice portfolio of railway pubs in London. Paddington, 2 at Euston, Kings Cross and next Liverpool St

They even have a webpage dedicated to their railway pubs: https://www.fullers.co.uk/blog/pubs-articles/best-pubs-near-train-stations

 

[yorksrob]

That will soon be "Fullers."
See https://www.camra.org.uk/press_rele...he-sale-of-fullers-brewing-business-to-asahi/ which starts

Another nail in the coffin of the mittelstrand of British businesses.

I seem to recall that Whitbread flogged off their brewing arm to become a glorified theme park and restaurant chain. When's the last time you saw a pint of Whitbread for sale ?

 

[camflyer]

Another nail in the coffin of the mittelstrand of British businesses.

I seem to recall that Whitbread flogged off their brewing arm to become a glorified theme park and restaurant chain. When's the last time you saw a pint of Whitbread for sale ?

Simply that there is more money to be made from bars, restaurants and hotels than from actually making the beer. Whitbread was a struggling company until it got out of the brewing business but have been very successful with Premier Inn, its restaurant chains and Costa Coffee (which it recently sold for £4bn). Personally, I wouldn't buy a pint of Whitbread if I saw it. Even in the days of bad beer it still wasn't any good.

 

[Mutant Lemming]

Recall mentioning I intended visiting the "10:50 to Victoria" somewhere earlier on this thread. It is worth a visit and although not exactly next door to the station (Strood being the nearest) it is railway themed and in an arch under the Kent coast mainline.

http://1050fromvictoria.co.uk/

 

[Mikey C]

Another nail in the coffin of the mittelstrand of British businesses.

I seem to recall that Whitbread flogged off their brewing arm to become a glorified theme park and restaurant chain. When's the last time you saw a pint of Whitbread for sale ?

There does seem to be a pattern now of family brewers exiting brewing. I was surprised and saddened by the Fuller's decision, though CAMRA's comments about choice are pretty bizarre as in London now you can't move for new micro/craft breweries.

 

[yorksrob]

Simply that there is more money to be made from bars, restaurants and hotels than from actually making the beer. Whitbread was a struggling company until it got out of the brewing business but have been very successful with Premier Inn, its restaurant chains and Costa Coffee (which it recently sold for £4bn). Personally, I wouldn't buy a pint of Whitbread if I saw it. Even in the days of bad beer it still wasn't any good.

But the point is that Fullers is very good. One of my favourites infact. How long until the new owners decide that they can't make enough money from the 'brand' and get bored of it. Or just as bad, start messing around with things. Remember Cadburys ?

There does seem to be a pattern now of family brewers exiting brewing. I was surprised and saddened by the Fuller's decision, though CAMRA's comments about choice are pretty bizarre as in London now you can't move for new micro/craft breweries.

Even with the micro breweries, it's still good to have strong, more established brewers with a bit of history to fall back on, such as your Timothy Taylors and your Shepherd Neames etc.

 

[Bookd]

Various sports clubs that I have occasion to visit still have (indifferent) beers branded as Whitbread - until a year or two ago one still had one branded as Double Diamond! - I could also find Mann's Brown Ale but you would struggle to find it in a pub.
Whitbread no longer make beer, but no doubt someone will have bought their brand names and use them in some markets, but I have no idea why.

 

[Mutant Lemming]

Various sports clubs that I have occasion to visit still have (indifferent) beers branded as Whitbread - until a year or two ago one still had one branded as Double Diamond! - I could also find Mann's Brown Ale but you would struggle to find it in a pub.
Whitbread no longer make beer, but no doubt someone will have bought their brand names and use them in some markets, but I have no idea why.

Takes me back to a time when I was less discerning about what ale I poured down my gullet

Trophy and Tankard were dire but were better than Greenall's (another fairly large regional brewer that thankfully packed in the brewing side)

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Various sports clubs that I have occasion to visit still have (indifferent) beers branded as Whitbread - until a year or two ago one still had one branded as Double Diamond! - I could also find Mann's Brown Ale but you would struggle to find it in a pub.
Whitbread no longer make beer, but no doubt someone will have bought their brand names and use them in some markets, but I have no idea why.

The brewing arm of Whitbread became Interbrew, later known as InBev. This company now makes a wide variety of branded beers in the UK including Stella Artois and Heineken.

Speaking of the brewing business, one of the relative newcomers to the industry, Huddersfield's Magic Rock, has recently been acquired by Lion's of Australia.

 

[greyman42]

But the point is that Fullers is very good. One of my favourites infact. How long until the new owners decide that they can't make enough money from the 'brand' and get bored of it. Or just as bad, start messing around with things. Remember Cadburys ?

Fullers beers are largely London based. Perhaps the new owners could establish the brand in the north as it is a decent beer.

 

[camflyer]

Fullers beers are largely London based. Perhaps the new owners could establish the brand in the north as it is a decent beer.

Yes, Fullers is a decent mid-range brewery (apart from London Pride which I have never liked) but you rarely see it outside of London and the Home Counties. The brand (I know how many hate that word) could certainly do with a refresh as the beer market is so crowded these days. You either have to be big and global or small and niche but Fullers are stuck in the middle.

 

[yorksrob]

Fullers beers are largely London based. Perhaps the new owners could establish the brand in the north as it is a decent beer.

Admittedly that's their base. But London Pride is my favourite beer now for supermarket purchasing.

Also, you do see it out and about as a guest.

 

[yorksrob]

Yes, Fullers is a decent mid-range brewery (apart from London Pride which I have never liked) but you rarely see it outside of London and the Home Counties. The brand (I know how many hate that word) could certainly do with a refresh as the beer market is so crowded these days. You either have to be big and global or small and niche but Fullers are stuck in the middle.

My view is the opposite. There surely must be a place for the classic medium sized brewery with a good range of everyday beers and a local following, between the specialist hipsters and the multinationals and their nitro-slop.

 

[Mutant Lemming]

Disagree with the Fullers angle - dire beer, never had a decent pint of Pride for over 30 years. Their pubs/eateries are increasingly becoming bland corporate soulless establishments and are generally over priced. The Fullers sign is one I avidly avoid. Sambrooks offer much better London brewed ales in either draught or bottled form.
McMullens and Arkells are a couple of the old classic style local brewers that still have a few tied houses.