Recent experience on Virgin

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You do find some later peak services quieten out considerably after Stevenage or Peterborough. But not really enough to reduce the frequency of the EC services and put on some extra locals.

Aye this is true, but again, with most fanciful ideas on here you wouldn't know until you tried it

 

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Until they start putting rails in the sky, adding block signalling, making access to departure lounges open to all, access gates to anyone with a valid ticket to anywhere, allowing open tickets with no reservations and offering regular mid-journey changes, I can only echo this statement.

Though the discussion has moved on in a different vein to the usual one...

 

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Going the other way, peak services heading south often quieten out after Newcastle or Peterborough. That's simply the nature of peak services. Strengthening the current suburban trains to 12-car (as is happening at the moment) seems to be the answer at the south end - or at least the latest bodge job until they finally quadruple all the way to Peterborough.

Though the discussion has moved on in a different vein to the usual one...

Which is a good point, sorry.

 

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Going the other way, peak services heading south often quieten out after Newcastle or Peterborough. That's simply the nature of peak services. Strengthening the current suburban trains to 12-car (as is happening at the moment) seems to be the answer at the south end - or at least the latest bodge job until they finally quadruple all the way to Peterborough.

For some reason the word "Welwyn" sprang to mind immediately...

I remember 4-tracking there being proposed and almost immediately canned a couple of times when I lived in Hitchin.