Remaining GWR HST Diagrams

Discussion in 'Allocations, Diagrams & Timetables' started by cactustwirly, 15 May 2018.

  1. QuestRail

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    Ah, yes, following it through from Paddington it looks like it goes back to North Pole. That's a shame, I got my hopes up when all of the platforms matched.
     
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    No but it seems that some of their stuff that's been there for 20 years is just rotting away. Obviously I can't tell what Angel are doing or if planning anything.
     
  3. nat67

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    I hope so. Apparently they have done a gauging trial there and back.
     
  4. CC 72100

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    Ah ok, so just enthusiast wibble of the highest order then.
     
  5. 43096

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    For a start, Porterbrook haven't leased power cars to (F)GW(R) for the last 20 years - first to go were 10 in 2004.

    You have no idea what either of the ROSCOs are doing - it is just dribble you are posting.
     
  6. Essexman

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    9.25 from Torquay to Paddington via Bristol (9.18 from Paignton?) is an HST this morning. Seat reservations mixed up as presumably was booked for an IET.
     
  7. PHILIPE

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    I think you will find it is booked for an HST, as per "Frequently Requested Diagrams" thread.
     
  8. Essexman

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    Hadn't noticed that. Thanks. Seat reservations still wrong though.
     
  9. WesternLancer

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    IW5 - so a Cheltenham run later too!
     
  10. PHILIPE

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    That's an every day occurrence while the two fleets are in use
     
  11. Essexman

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    I know but it should only occur if the train isn't the booked type. Although clearly it doesn't. A couple of weeks ago reservations were wrong on the Torbay Express which was a nine coach IET. The Train Manager explained that it was because they'd been set up for a 10 car train, however these don't run to Paignton so were bound to be wrong.
     
  12. HamworthyGoods

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    Does anyone have the SX diagrams for next week please? Thanks
     
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    Sorry I meant the actual planned workings as there’s 5 diagrams out at the moment instead of the 4 it was intended to reduce to on April 5th.

    The 5th diagram has previously been posted as spare on Good Friday but will it be working as per last week on Mon to Thurs....
     
  15. gaillark

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    They just take your name and tick you off the list upon boarding the restaurant car. (No specific seat allocated).
     
  16. gaillark

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    Can anybody advise what confirmed diagrams will still be booked as HST with effect from 29 April (as after 26 April some are planned to be converted over to IET). Thanks.
     
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    Indeed, There are other factors at play here and the Porterbrook Ones will be finding new uses / homes soon. What is stored where is down to the leasers - Angel chose Ely, while PB Chose LM. The Hull Sets being Angel are simply nothing to do with PB not giving a monkeys and deciding to leave their PCs to rot, it's down to which PC or Mk3 is leased until it's end date - and the Angel ones simply have a longer lease (allowing HT to make use of 2 sets for longer, whereas the PB sets were due to be finished with GW by March). PB like all the ROSCOs do have plans for their sets, most of which we will see soon.

    So no, it's not PB not giving a monkeys, or leaving their stuff to rot in there for 20 years, it simply is market value and lease dates. Angel have been the luckier of the two GW fleets anyway, after signing ScotRail to take the majority of them.

    Anyway, back to the diagrams. Do the short sets work Sundays? I can roughly work out the times for them.

    (And this wasn't me disagreeing with you @43096 at all, it's me agreeing fully)
     
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    Indeed, you will usually have a choice of which seat you chose depending on how early you are or how busy the restaurant is on the day.
     
  19. WesternLancer

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    Thanks, that is helpful to know. I assume that having contacted them in advance I am thus more "gauranteed" a restaurant place than say a 1st class passenger who just rocks up on the day and wants to dine, but has not pre booked. Mind you, the menu prices indicate the meal will cost c£40 for say 2 courses, so many might not deem that worth the money, tho I've paid more in some restuarants for lower quality, and a lot less comfort than a Mk3 carriage, and no view at all!
     
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    There's some complete and utter wibble going on here, as others have said - can we keep it to diagrams please?!

    People keep on talking about "booked diagrams" and referring to the frequently requested diagrams thread. It's very important to note that whilst SX diagrams are 'fairly' fixed, we're at the stage now where anything goes at the weekend. There are no booked weekend diagrams now and it's a complete and utter mixture due to the nature of STP work. Basically, in the LTP there are 13 HST diagrams. We have to cut out a number each week: We're down to 5 active traffic diagrams - but these don't necessarily equate to weekend diagrams IW001 to IW005. At the weekends, diagrams reflect whatever is required to get the fleet to balance.

    With the Exception of Good Friday / Easter Monday, SX diagrams will be as follows from Monday 15th to Friday 26th April:

    IW001:
    1A71, 04.51 PLY > PAD 08.37.
    1C74, 09.03 PAD > PLY 12.19.
    1A87, 12.55 PLY > PAD 16.21.
    1C90, 17.03 PAD > PNZ 22.25.

    IW002: (DIAGRAM RUNS FOR THE LAST TIME ON FRIDAY 26TH APRIL)
    1A82, 09.00 PNZ > PAD 14.01.
    1C86, 15.03 PAD > PNZ 20.40.

    IW003:
    1A79, 06.47 PNZ > PAD 12.21.
    1C82, 13.03 PAD > PLY 16.18.
    1A86, 16.55 PLY > PAD 20.37.
    1C98, 21.01 PAD > PLY 00.40.

    IW004: (DIAGRAM RUNS FOR THE LAST TIME ON FRIDAY 26TH APRIL)
    2T04, 07.06 NTA > PGN 07.27.
    1A12, 07.48 PGN > PAD 11.37.
    1C81, 12.33 PAD > TAU 14.34.
    1A89, 15.33 TAU > PAD 17.54.
    1C93, 18.33 PAD > PLY 22.11.

    IW005:
    1A81, 07.41 PNZ > PAD 13.15.
    1C84, 14.03 PAD > PNZ 19.32.

    IW005: (FRIDAY 26TH APRIL *ONLY*)
    1A81, 07.41 PNZ > PAD 13.15.
    1B42, 14.15 PAD > CDF 16.22.
    1L82, 16.56 CDF > PAD 19.07.
    1C28, 19.30 PAD > WSM 21.53.

    Beyond this, the situation is fluid and further postings will follow once the details have been confirmed.
     
  21. PHILIPE

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    There are short set Diagrams on a Sunday.
     
  22. route101

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    Hoping for HST on the 1415 Paddington to Cheltenham next month
     
  23. PHILIPE

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    If it is not shown in Post #1010 which it isn't, it will be an IET. If AFTER 18 May, certainly not.
     
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    Are the STP diagrams out yet for the 4th of May to confirm (or deny) this run?
     
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    Not yet, only up to Fri 26th April so far.
     
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    Do you know what diagrams are going to be working on Monday 22nd April (next week).

    Thanks,
    Nat
     
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  27. PHILIPE

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    Look a few posts up
     
  28. route101

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    Wonder if thats a bet for HST on the 11th of May ? London to Hereford.
     
  29. JonathanH

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    Different engineering work on 11 May to 4 May so suggest the HST allocations will be different.
     
  30. FGW_DID

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    Monday is the 22nd April!

    Diagrams as per post #1010 above with the exception of:
    1. 2Z42 > 1A87 > 1C90
    3. 1A96 > 1C98
    4. 1Z85 > 1C91 > 2A65

    Tuesday 23/04, the diagrams are as per post #1010.

    As an aside, there is a typo on #1010: 1A86 16.55 Plymouth - Paddington should be 1A96.
     

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