Remaining LNER Class 91 services

[Rhydgaled]

From SWTrainspottin's post #78, are there only eight IC225 diagrams now and how many are there likely to be over the (long) weekend 28th Feb - 1st March?

 

[SWTrainspottin]

From SWTrainspottin's post #78, are there only eight IC225 diagrams now and how many are there likely to be over the (long) weekend 28th Feb - 1st March?

Pretty sure there’s more than 8 diagrams. There are usually 15-20 sets out daily.

 

[55002]

From SWTrainspottin's post #78, are there only eight IC225 diagrams now and how many are there likely to be over the (long) weekend 28th Feb - 1st March?

There’s 17 I think

 

[Rhydgaled]

Pretty sure there’s more than 8 diagrams. There are usually 15-20 sets out daily.

There’s 17 I think

Thanks both, glad to read that there are still quite a few about. The question now is how do I find them; is the LNER website accurate in reporting which are Azumas with hard seats and everything else is a comparatively comfortable mark 4?

 

[coradiafan2000]

Apologies if this isn't the right place to post this but last Monday I saw a Class 91 in the sidings at the northern end of Doncaster. It didn't have a number and it looked like parts had been removed from it. Does anyone know which unit this is/was?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Apologies if this isn't the right place to post this but last Monday I saw a Class 91 in the sidings at the northern end of Doncaster. It didn't have a number and it looked like parts had been removed from it. Does anyone know which unit this is/was?

Probably 91 108, especially if the front fairing was missing.

 

[coradiafan2000]

Probably 91 108, especially if the front fairing was missing.

It was missing so that was probably it then. Think the pantograph had been removed as well. So is it being used as a source for parts or is it waiting to be scrapped?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

It was missing so that was probably it then. Think the pantograph had been removed as well. So is it being used as a source for parts or is it waiting to be scrapped?

I'll have to look back through the class 91 withdrawals thread, but from memory it's both - once they've recovered everything usable off it, it'll probably be towed the short distance to Rotherham...

 

[alistairlees]

Is there any possibility of updated diagrams, including weekend ones? Thanks.

 

[SteveyBee131]

Does anyone know if Saturday 1D05 (08:03 KX to LDS) and 1D06 (08:33 KX to LDS) are planned to be 91s or Zoomers these days please? I've not managed to find anything conclusive with the means that I have. Thanks for any help offered

 

[SWTrainspottin]

Does anyone know if Saturday 1D05 (08:03 KX to LDS) and 1D06 (08:33 KX to LDS) are planned to be 91s or Zoomers these days please? I've not managed to find anything conclusive with the means that I have. Thanks for any help offered

Both services are booked to be an Azuma according to the LNER booking site. This could change last minute tomorrow though.

 

[SteveyBee131]

Both services are booked to be an Azuma according to the LNER booking site. This could change last minute tomorrow though.

OK thanks. Will be on one of them going North. Here's hoping for a substitute!

 

[66Yorks]

Managed a class 91 both ways from London to York last week. Probably the last time for me.

 

[coradiafan2000]

Managed a class 91 both ways from London to York last week. Probably the last time for me.

I'm treating every ride behind a 91 like it's my last, especially as I live far away from where they operate so can't travel on them often.

I'm not sure why I have this mindset now it's been confirmed a few will be staying for another year or two though.

 

[alistairlees]

Does anyone know if any of the first three departures (at 07.54, 08.55 and 09.25) from Newcastle to kings cross tomorrow Sunday 23rd February are booked a 91?

The LNER website gives no guidance.

 

[stantheman]

Any info yet on which routes will see the 91s which were reported to be kept on for a few years .

 

[D6700]

Does anyone know if any of the first three departures (at 07.54, 08.55 and 09.25) from Newcastle to kings cross tomorrow Sunday 23rd February are booked a 91?

The LNER website gives no guidance.

Obviously, this is too late for your query, but when the website doesn't show what is planned, go part way through the booking process and look at the seating chart, which will provide the answer. Clearly, this can change on the day, epecially given they are often half a dozen or so Azuma sets down!

 

[55002]

Latest WEEKDAY diagrams

BN401 0615 KGX-EDB, 1530 EDB-KGX, 2033 KGX-LDS
BN402 0630 BDQ-KGX, 1033 KGX-LDS, 1315 LDS-KGX, 1630 KGX-EDB, (FO 2200 EDB-NCL)
BN403 0548 EDB-KGX, 1106 KGX-YRK, 1402 YRK-KGX, 1730 KGX-EDB
BN406 0730 KGX-EDB, 1300 EDB-KGX, 1818 KGX-NCL
BN407 0526 NCL-KGX, 0930 KGX-EDB, 1500 EDB-KGX, 2300 KGX-YRK
BN408 0440 YRK-KGX, 0800 KGX-EDB, 1330 EDB-KGX, 1830 KGX-EDB
BN409 0656 EDB-KGX, 1230 KGX-EDB, 1936 EDB-KGX
BN410 0703 KGX-LDS, 0945 LDS-KGX, 1233 KGX-LDS, 1515 LDS-KGX, 1800 KGX-EDB
BN411 0526 STG-KGX, 1130 KGX-EDB, 1700 EDB-KGX
BN412 0900 EDB-KGX, 1430 KGX-EDB (Empty to Heaton)
BN413 0600 BWK-KGX, 1100 KGX-EDB, 1630 EDB-KGX
BN414 0830 KGX-EDB, 1400 EDB-KGX

Edited 18th March - 3 more diagrams gone

 

[LNER91102]

Is the 1900 off Edinburgh a 91 or Azuma

 

[4REP]

Latest WEEKDAY diagrams

BN401 0615 KGX-EDB, 1530 EDB-KGX, 2033 KGX-LDS
BN402 0630 BDQ-KGX, 1033 KGX-LDS, 1315 LDS-KGX, 1630 KGX-EDB, (FO 2200 EDB-NCL)
BN403 0548 EDB-KGX, 1106 KGX-YRK, 1402 YRK-KGX, 1730 KGX-EDB
BN406 0730 KGX-EDB, 1300 EDB-KGX, 1818 KGX-NCL
BN407 0526 NCL-KGX, 0930 KGX-EDB, 1500 EDB-KGX, 2300 KGX-YRK
BN408 0440 YRK-KGX, 0800 KGX-EDB, 1330 EDB-KGX, 1830 KGX-EDB
BN409 0656 EDB-KGX, 1230 KGX-EDB, 1936 EDB-KGX
BN410 0703 KGX-LDS, 0945 LDS-KGX, 1233 KGX-LDS, 1515 LDS-KGX, 1800 KGX-EDB
BN411 0526 STG-KGX, 1130 KGX-EDB, 1700 EDB-KGX
BN412 0900 EDB-KGX, 1430 KGX-EDB (Empty to Heaton)
BN413 0600 BWK-KGX, 1100 KGX-EDB, 1630 EDB-KGX
BN414 0830 KGX-EDB, 1400 EDB-KGX

Edited 18th March - 3 more diagrams gone

which diagrams ceased?

 

[55002]

which diagrams ceased?

0715 LDS-KGX gone to Azuma, the 91 moved to 0630 BDQ-KGX

0633 KGX-LDS, 0915 LDS-KGX gone to Azuma

0655 SKI-KGX, 1030 KGX-EDB, 1600 EDB-KGX gone to Azuma

0730 EDB-KGX, 1306 KGX-YRK, 1603 YRK-KGX, 1900 KGX-EDB gone to Azuma

 

[Jamesrob637]

Will more 91s step down if LNER goes to a weekend timetable from Monday?

 

[DanNCL]

Last Saturday of multiple 91 workings north of York today. full allocations are as follows (with thanks to the Class 91 group on Facebook for the allocations)

91109:
1A04 06:05 Leeds - London
1N81 09:06 London - York
1Y84 12:02 York - London
1N87 15:06 London - York
1Y90 18:03 York - London

91111:
1D02 06:33 London - Leeds
1A19 09:15 Leeds - London
1D14 12:35 London - Leeds
1A37 15:15 Leeds - London
1D26 18:03 London - Leeds
5Y15 21:05 Leeds - York via Doncaster

91114:
1E12 11:00 Edinburgh - London
1S25 16:30 London - Edinburgh

91124:
1S13 11:00 London - Edinburgh
1E23 16:30 Edinburgh - London

91127:
1Y00 04:40 York - London
1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh
1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London
1D28 18:33 London - Bradford

From Monday the only booked 91 workings north of York will be 1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh and 1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London, everything else north of York operated by LNER will be Azuma operated.

 

[DanNCL]

Tomorrow (29th August) will see two consecutive London - Scotland services worked by 91s, 1S07 08:00 from Kings Cross and 1S08 08:30 from Kings X, with the sets returning from Edinburgh on 1E17 at 13:30 and 1E18 14:00. This will almost certainly be the last chance to see two 91s together in Edinburgh.

The planned diagrams for Tuesday 1st - Friday 4th September should be as follows:

1A04 06:05 Leeds - London
1N81 09:06 London - York
1Y84 12:02 York - London
1N87 15:06 London - York
1Y90 18:02 York - London

1D02 06:33 London - Leeds
1A49 19:15 Leeds - London
1N35 22:00 London - York

1Y00 04:40 York - London
1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh
1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London
1D28 18:33 London - Bradford

1S07 and 1E17 on 4th September are planned to be the last diagramed 91s to/from Edinburgh. From 5th September all LNER workings to/from Edinburgh are booked to be Azumas.


29/08/2019
Today's class 91 workings, with two consecutive Edinburgh services being worked by 91s for almost certainly the final time.

91101:
1D02 06:30 London - Leeds
1A19 09:15 Leeds - London
1D14 12:35 London - Leeds
1A37 15:15 Leeds - London
1D26 18:03 London - Leeds

91109:
1A04 06:05 Leeds - London
1N81 09:06 London - York
1Y84 12:03 York - London
1N87 15:06 London - York
1Y90 18:02 York - London

91119:
1S08 08:30 London - Edinburgh
1E18 14:00 Edinburgh - London

91124:
1Y00 04:40 York - London
1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh
1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London
1D30 19:33 London - Bradford

I will endeavour to keep this thread updated with diagrams and allocations as frequently as I can.

 

[WesternLancer]

Tomorrow (29th August) will see two consecutive London - Scotland services worked by 91s, 1S07 08:00 from Kings Cross and 1S08 08:30 from Kings X, with the sets returning from Edinburgh on 1E17 at 13:30 and 1E18 14:00. This will almost certainly be the last chance to see two 91s together in Edinburgh.

The planned diagrams for Tuesday 1st - Friday 4th September should be as follows:

1A04 06:05 Leeds - London
1N81 09:06 London - York
1Y84 12:02 York - London
1N87 15:06 London - York
1Y90 18:02 York - London

1D02 06:33 London - Leeds
1A49 19:15 Leeds - London
1N35 22:00 London - York

1Y00 04:40 York - London
1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh
1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London
1D28 18:33 London - Bradford

1S07 and 1E17 on 4th September are planned to be the last diagramed 91s to/from Edinburgh. From 5th September all LNER workings to/from Edinburgh are booked to be Azumas.


29/08/2019
Today's class 91 workings, with two consecutive Edinburgh services being worked by 91s for almost certainly the final time.

91101:
1D02 06:30 London - Leeds
1A19 09:15 Leeds - London
1D14 12:35 London - Leeds
1A37 15:15 Leeds - London
1D26 18:03 London - Leeds

91109:
1A04 06:05 Leeds - London
1N81 09:06 London - York
1Y84 12:03 York - London
1N87 15:06 London - York
1Y90 18:02 York - London

91119:
1S08 08:30 London - Edinburgh
1E18 14:00 Edinburgh - London

91124:
1Y00 04:40 York - London
1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh
1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London
1D30 19:33 London - Bradford

I will endeavour to keep this thread updated with diagrams and allocations as frequently as I can.

Thanks - really helpful. Any idea for the bank hol monday pattern?

 

[Mathieu]

I wonder what the odds are of having a farewell railtour for the Class 91s and if so what route will it take

 

[DanNCL]

30/08/2020

Today's class 91 workings - 3 sets out today, one of them working to Edinburgh. Allocations are as follows:

91101:
1Y14 08:00 York - London
1D11 11:03 London - Leeds
1A34 14:05 Leeds - London
1D23 17:05 London - Leeds
1A52 20:45 Leeds - London

91109:
1S17 12:30 London - Edinburgh
1E26 18:00 Edinburgh - London

91119:
1D09 10:07 London - Leeds
1A31 13:05 Leeds - London
1D21 16:05 London - Leeds
1A49 19:16 Leeds - London
1N35 22:00 London - York

Thanks - really helpful. Any idea for the bank hol monday pattern?

I'm not sure at the moment, will post on this thread as soon as I know.

 

[WesternLancer]

30/08/2020

Today's class 91 workings - 3 sets out today, one of them working to Edinburgh. Allocations are as follows:

91101:
1Y14 08:00 York - London
1D11 11:03 London - Leeds
1A34 14:05 Leeds - London
1D23 17:05 London - Leeds
1A52 20:45 Leeds - London

91109:
1S17 12:30 London - Edinburgh
1E26 18:00 Edinburgh - London

91119:
1D09 10:07 London - Leeds
1A31 13:05 Leeds - London
1D21 16:05 London - Leeds
1A49 19:16 Leeds - London
1N35 22:00 London - York


I'm not sure at the moment, will post on this thread as soon as I know.

Thanks Dan!