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I'm trying to list all the reversing points on the LU which are still used today. Please point out any I've missed - and I'm sure there are loads.
Also tell me if any aren't actually used.

Now sorted into alphabetical order.

Bakerloo:
Elephant & Castle
Harrow & Wealdstone
Kilburn High Road
Lambeth North
Paddington
Piccadilly
Queens Park
Stonebridge Park
Waterloo (via London Rd Depot Reception Road)
Willesden Junction



Central:
Bethnal Green
Debden
Ealing Bdy
Epping
Grange Hill
Hainault
Holborn
Leytonstone
Liverpool St
Loughton
Marble Arch
Newbury Park
North Acton
Northolt
Queensway
Ruislip Gardens
West Ruislip
White City
Woodford


Circle:
None

District:
Acton Town
Aldgate East
Barking
Bromley-by-Bow
Dagenham East
Ealing Broadway
Ealing Common (via depot)
Earls Court
East Ham
East Putney
Edgware Road
Embankment
Gunnersbury
High Street Kensington
Hornchurch
Kensington Olympia
Mansion House
Parsons Green
Plaistow
Putney Bridge
Richmond
South Kensington
Tower Hill
Triangle Sidings
Upminster
Upney (via Barking sidings)
West Kensington
Whitechapel
Wimbledon
Wimbledon Park


DLR:
Bank
Beckton
Canary Wharf
Canning Town (?)
Crossharbour
Lewisham
Mudchute
Tower Gateway

ELL:
New Cross
New Cross Gate
Shadwell
Surrey Quays
Whitechapel

Hammersmith & City:
Baker Street
Barking
Hammersmith
Plaistow
Whitechapel

Jubilee:
Canary Wharf
Finchley Road
Green Park
London Bridge
Neasden
North Greenwich
Southwark
Stanmore
Stratford
Waterloo
Wembley Park
West Ham
West Hampstead
Willesden Green


Metropolitan:
Aldgate
Amersham
Baker Street
Chalfont & Latimer
Chesham
Harrow-on-the-Hill
Moorgate
Neasden
Rayner's Lane
Rickmansworth
Ruislip
Uxbridge
Watford
Wembley Park
Willesden Green

Northern:
Archway
Charing Cross
Colindale
East Finchley
Edgware
Euston
Finchley Central
Golders Green
Hampstead
High Barnet
Kennington
King's Cross
Mill Hill East
Moorgate
Morden
Mornington Crescent
Stockwell
Tooting Broadway
Totteridge & Whetstone

Piccadilly:
Acton Town
Arnos Grove
Barons Court
Cockfosters
Hatton Cross
Heathrow (via loop)
Heathrow 1,2,3
(Heathrow T5)
Hounslow Central
Hyde Park Corner
King's Cross
Northfields
Oakwood
Rayner's Lane
Ruislip
South Harrow
Uxbridge
Wood Green

Victoria:
Brixton
Highbury & Islington
King's Cross
Seven Sisters
Victoria
Walthamstow Central
Warren Street

Thanks to:
Seth, London Tube, Jim, tubechallenger, Tomcrame, Cockfosters, District Dave
for their additions.
 
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There are several means of reversing at Northfields on the Picc:

Platform 2 (WB Fast) > EB Fast (Direct)
Platform 2 (WB Fast) > Reversing siding > Platform 3 (EB Fast)
Platforms 1/2 (WB Local/Fast) > Depot > Platform 3/4 (EB Fast/Local)

I believe there is also a reversing siding at KGX.

Reversal is possible at both S. Harrow and Barons Court.
 

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Thanks Seth. I do actually know about Northfields, but forgot it when the time came! ;)
 

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Archway & Baker St (H&C) are both reverse points (so you can remove the (?) ;) ).
 

Dave A

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There maybe on at Wood Green/Bounds Green on the Picc but I'm not sure :?
 

jd

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I did use CULG, however the only info about reversal points is in the "Services" section, and that only lists ones in timetabled use.

Wood Green is a possible reversal point, but I'm sure I heard it's not used any more, even in disruption. - I believe Seth to be more reliable than the source of that...
 
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Wood Green was tested for a possible Piccadilly Line limited service after July 7th.

Anyway... *looks in Quail*
 
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Reversing points on the Jubilee:

Stanmore
Wembley Park
Neasden
Willesden Green
West Hampstead
Finchley Road (dunno how, but it is done!)
Green Park (eastbound/southbound only)
Waterloo
Southwark
London Bridge
Canary Wharf
North Greenwich
West Ham
Stratford
 

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There is a siding a Wood Green. It is used for trains that have problems or are running late.

Although rarely used, I am 100% sure as I have got on a train heading for Arnos and was told to get off at Wood Green due to problems with the trains radio.

However, for those I don't belive me, here is the proof - http://www.simonclarke.org/lul/maps/pic_strip.gif - This map gives a view of the number of lines, track (including sidings), platforms and tunnels.

:P :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
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There is bidirectional signalling there. How do you think they do SB to NB?
 

jd

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Why not use that for the current service pattern, which has arisen through the recent unfortunate circumstances?
 

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*Looks in Northern Line Drivers Manual

Some are limited to direction

EMERGENCY

Toteridge Hand Worked
Hampstead
Charing Cross
Mornington C
East Finchley
Moorgate
Stockwell

REVERSING SIDINGS
Kings Cross
Finchley Central
Tooting Broadway
Kennington
Archway
KX
Euston
East Finchley
Colindale

STABLING OF TRAINS
Edgware
High Barnet
Highgate Depot
Golders Green
Morden

TRAINCREW DEPOTS
Edgware
Golders Green
Morden
High Barnet
Kennington (?)

Jim
 

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I'll stick with BCV Lines for now:
Bakerloo:
Harrow
Wembley Central (though I'm not sure if T/Ops have route knowledge for it)
Stonebridge Park
Willesden Junction
Queens Park
Kilburn High Road (SB trains only)
Paddington
Piccadilly
Waterloo (via London Rd Depot Reception Road)
Lambeth North
E&C

Central:
West Ruislip
Ruislip Gardens
Northolt
Ealing Bdy
North Acton
White City
Queensway
Marble Arch
Holborn
Liverpool St
Bethnal Green
Leytonstone
Newbury Park
Hainault
Grange Hill
Woodford
Loughton
Debden
Epping

Victoria:
Walthamstow
Seven Sisters
Highbury
King's X
Warren Street
Victoria
Brixton
 

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TomCrame I presume you mean? Surely not yourself? :lol:

Thanks Tom Crame, I've added the ones you gave me. Ditto the other Tom.
 

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tubechallenger said:
Wood Green was tested for a possible Piccadilly Line limited service after July 7th.

AFAIK Wood green could never be used for S to N reversing, but last time I used the Picc regularly about 1 in 4 trains reversed there N to S out of the peak. When did this stop?
 

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Not sure when it stopped, certainly lots of off-peak Heathrows used to turn at Wood Green (WTT of 1979).

It isn't timetabled as being used these days... but is if things go up the wall.

Add KXSP for the Picc, Hounslow Central, Oakwood, Ruislip and Hatton Cross.
 

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Cockfosters said:
Not sure when it stopped, certainly lots of off-peak Heathrows used to turn at Wood Green (WTT of 1979).

It isn't timetabled as being used these days... but is if things go up the wall.

Add KXSP for the Picc, Hounslow Central, Oakwood, Ruislip and Hatton Cross.

But have you seen the state of the rails of the crossover at Oakwood (or do you mean reversing via the depot?)
 

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Reversing via the depot IIRC is what's usually done but don't quote me. Not been up that way for a while.
 

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tubechallenger said:
S to N can be used in emergencies.

Not for the last 23 years it couldn't, they're now doing mods to enable it in case Kings X is ever out of action again..

Cockfosters said:
Reversing via the depot IIRC is what's usually done but don't quote me. Not been up that way for a while.

The most common method when I was at Earl's Court control room was to reverse off the EB platform.
 
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Well, from what someone else told me it would work, but I am right in a way!!
 

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It can be done at the moment, but only by handsignalling and securing the points.
 

rbruce1314

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TomCrame said:
tubechallenger said:
Cockfosters said:
Reversing via the depot IIRC is what's usually done but don't quote me. Not been up that way for a while.

The most common method when I was at Earl's Court control room was to reverse off the EB platform.

Is there a daily rusty rails manoeuvre for this one now then? Last time I saw it tried (granted it was quite a few years ago) the train got halfway across and stuck solid!!!! so much that I went and caught a bus (unfortunately I had somewhere to go otherwise I would have loved to see how they got out of that one)
 

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Quite a few additional ones for the District I can add to your list - in no particular order:

Wimbledon Park
East Putney
Gunnersbury
Acton Town
West Kensington
Earls Court
Triangle Sidings
South Kensington
Embankment
Aldgate East
Bromley-by-Bow
East Ham
Upney (via Barking sidings)
Dagenham East
Hornchurch

HTH
 
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