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pt_mad

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Hi

I am visting Scarborough for a few days later this year, and since I am up that way would like to go for a trip on an East Coast 225.

I realise I will have to take TPE to York first. Wheres the best place for a day trip on a 225 from York bearing in mind I would like to travel off peak during the week and back to Scarborough?

Oh and not too expensive.
 
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If you book for a date that is 11 to 12 weeks ahead, you'll find East Coast's cheapest fares. At those prices you should probably manage a midday trip to Edinburgh and back on a 225 over some of the Country's most scenic line. Youll be able to travel the 400 miles for £13 each way. Under £10 each wayif you restrict yourself to the two or three services at that price.

At two and a half hours each way, I think you should be able to leave as much time as you want in Edin. But remember, these prices are for Advance tickets, which tie you into specific train times. Also remember that the Aberdeen and Inverness trains (plus a few Edinburgh trains) will be HSTs and not 225s.
 

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Yeah considered Newcastle but the NationalRail Planner itinerary is pointing towards a change onto Cross Country at York. Presumably because of the shorter connection?

Edinburugh sounds great, and I wouldn't need long as its more about the rail journey for me.

Any idea how much an advanced off peak fare would be?

And is there any way of getting to Leeds via East Coast from Scarborough?
 

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I guess it depends on what you'd like to do. If going for something rail related you could take East Coast to Darlington and then the train up to Shildon to see the NRM there, or visit the Darlington Railway Museum. Or carry on to Bishop Auckland and ride the Weardale Railway (timetable to be announced).

If you want a general day out, Newcastle is an interesting city to look around, and you could tie in a ride on the Metro (you may get a cab view seat if you're lucky!). You could come back via Sunderland on Grand Central for some variety.
 

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Yeah considered Newcastle but the NationalRail Planner itinerary is pointing towards a change onto Cross Country at York. Presumably because of the shorter connection?

Edinburugh sounds great, and I wouldn't need long as its more about the rail journey for me.

Any idea how much an advanced off peak fare would be?

And is there any way of getting to Leeds via East Coasr from Scarborough?
You could stay on the TPE service through to leeds and do london leeds on EC if you wish but i would reconmend the line to edinburgh too it is wonderful.
 

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If you book for a date that is 11 to 12 weeks ahead, you'll find East Coast's cheapest fares. At those prices you should probably manage a midday trip to Edinburgh and back on a 225 over some of the Country's most scenic line. Youll be able to travel the 400 miles for £13 each way. Under £10 each wayif you restrict yourself to the two or three services at that price.

At two and a half hours each way, I think you should be able to leave as much time as you want in Edin. But remember, these prices are for Advance tickets, which tie you into specific train times. Also remember that the Aberdeen and Inverness trains (plus a few Edinburgh trains) will be HSTs and not 225s.
Posted my last message before your reply. That price sounds superb, just hope I would end up with a 225 and not a HST as I understand even some services terminating at Edinburugh are now using HSTs?
 

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And is there any way of getting to Leeds via East Coast from Scarborough?
Not all the way - but I suppose you could go by TPE to York, then book York to Doncaster and Doncaster to Leeds via East Coast. That would give you journeys of about 25 and 35 minutes by EC.
 

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Not all the way - but I suppose you could go by TPE to York, then book York to Doncaster and Doncaster to Leeds via East Coast. That would give you journeys of about 25 and 35 minutes by EC.
Is that permitted with a direct ticket from Scarborough to Leeds?
 

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Is that permitted with a direct ticket from Scarborough to Leeds?
I very much doubt it. Probably two seperate tickets. And looking on nationalrail it doesnt look good value for money either. I think a bash to edinburgh or newcastle will give you much more satsfaction. Newcastle you could probs do on advances for £40 max, thats without railcard.
 

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Edinburgh is the one really just for the scenery. Its really nice.
The city is fantastically stunning, and some of the scenery en route around the border is breathtaking. +1 vote for Edinburgh here.
 

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Is that permitted with a direct ticket from Scarborough to Leeds?
No - that's why I said "and then book to Doncaster, and Doncaster to Leeds"

By the way, I agree it would not be very good value for money, and not a particularly picturesque route either, but the OP did ask if he could go to Leeds by EC from Scarborough.
 

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No - that's why I said "and then book to Doncaster, and Doncaster to Leeds"

By the way, I agree it would not be very good value for money, and not a particularly picturesque route either, but the OP did ask if he could go to Leeds by EC from Scarborough.
Oh i know you were just telling him, i then went to say that that would not be a best use of his money if he watns 225 action. Wasn't anything against you just expressing my opinion to him that its probably not the best use of his money.
 

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Yeah considered Newcastle but the NationalRail Planner itinerary is pointing towards a change onto Cross Country at York. Presumably because of the shorter connection?
Just split your ticket. Buy Sc-Yk and then another ticket for an 225 journey. It might even work out cheaper.

So if you want to go to, say, Newcastle on May 15 (as a random example), East Coast tells you to get the 09.48 from Scarborough and change to the 10.48 XC service - no advance fare available.

So instead buy a single from Scarborough to York on the 09.48 for £7 - and instead take the 10.53 East Coast for just £5.80 (the only risk would be if the Scarborough train was delayed, you're a bit lumbered). You can then play with whatever permutations you like - you could even stop over at the NRM in York for a few hours and go on the East Coast up to Newcastle in the afternoon.
 

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(the only risk would be if the Scarborough train was delayed, you're a bit lumbered).
Fortunately not the case! As long as the minimum connection time at the changeover station is left when book a sequence of Advance tickets (or a walk-up feeding into an Advance), you will be covered for onward travel (though it is advisable to speak to station staff to get the ticket endorsed). For York, I believe the minimum connection time is 5 minutes (and Yorkie will surely correct me if this is not the case!)
 

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Fortunately not the case! As long as the minimum connection time at the changeover station is left when book a sequence of Advance tickets (or a walk-up feeding into an Advance), you will be covered for onward travel (though it is advisable to speak to station staff to get the ticket endorsed). For York, I believe the minimum connection time is 5 minutes (and Yorkie will surely correct me if this is not the case!)
Cheers mate, thanks for that, very good to know.
 

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Oh i know you were just telling him, i then went to say that that would not be a best use of his money if he watns 225 action. Wasn't anything against you just expressing my opinion to him that its probably not the best use of his money.
Yes - I realise that. Sorry for over-reacting.
 

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Excellent, well Edinburugh it is then.

Seems I can get an advance return for £25 from York. I have been to Edinburugh by road in the past and you're right, the scenery around Berwick etc is amazing. And the railway was nearer to the sea than the A1 was.

Thanks for the great advice.
 

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Excellent, well Edinburugh it is then.

Seems I can get an advance return for £25 from York. I have been to Edinburugh by road in the past and you're right, the scenery around Berwick etc is amazing. And the railway was nearer to the sea than the A1 was.

Thanks for the great advice.
Enjoy yourself and let us know what you think !!!
 
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