Rolling stock numbers?

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  1. Alasdair

    Alasdair Member

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    Hi

    Does anyone know the full rolling stock numbers of the Scotrail, Virgin West Coast, East Midlands Trains (EMT) and CrossCountry (XC) fleets?
     
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  3. Domh245

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    As in total fleet size, or as in individual units?

    Fleet size:
    288 units (784 coaches)
    2 Locomotives (hire in from DRS)
    12 Mk2 Coaches (hire in from DRS)

    Class numbers used:
    156
    158
    170
    314
    318
    320
    334
    380

    Note that there they are due to receive some more rolling stock over the course of the franchise.

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abellio_ScotRail#Rolling_stock
     
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    hi thanks for that
    i was looking for the unit numbers per class
     
  5. crehld

    crehld Established Member Associate Staff Senior Fares Advisor

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    Ok, I think it might just be easier for you to consult this excellent website: http://abrail.co.uk/
     
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    Virgin WestCoast SuperVoyagers:-
    221101
    221102
    221103
    221104
    221105
    221106
    221107
    221108
    221109
    221110
    221111
    221112
    221113
    221114
    221115
    221116
    221117
    221118
    221142
    221143

    Virgin West Coast Pendolinos:-
    390001
    390002
    390005
    390006
    390008
    390009
    390010
    390011
    390013
    390016
    390020
    390039
    390040
    390042
    390043
    390044
    390045
    390046
    390047
    390049
    390050
    390103
    390104
    390107
    390112
    390114
    390115
    390117
    390118
    390119
    390121
    390122
    390123
    390124
    390125
    390126
    390127
    390128
    390129
    390130
    390131
    390132
    390134
    390135
    390136
    390137
    390138
    390141
    390148
    390151
    390152
    390153
    390154
    390155
    390156
    390157

    The 221s are all formed of 5 coaches, the 390/0s are all formed of 9 coaches and the 390/1s are all formed of 11 coaches.
     
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    as alluded to in a different thread, your friend here is abrail.co.uk

    http://www.abrail.co.uk/emuformations.htm
    http://www.abrail.co.uk/dmuformations.htm
    http://www.abrail.co.uk/diesellocodetail.htm
    http://www.abrail.co.uk/electriclocodetail.htm
    http://www.abrail.co.uk/lhcspassdetail.htm

    These webpages contain details about the rolling stock on the network, and has details about livery, owner, operator, depot etc

    Using the search function of your internet browser, you can then use the codes from this page:

    http://www.abrail.co.uk/Rail Franchises.htm

    to find the stock used by operators. In some cases, an operator will use a 'block' of stock, eg scotrail use all trains from 314201 to 314216, but in others (notably classes 150, 156, 158) The ordering is less consistent, and operators will have units from all over the class
     
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    EMT Power cars:-
    43043
    43044
    43045
    43046
    43047
    43048
    43049
    43050
    43052
    43054
    43055
    43058
    43059
    43060
    43061
    43064
    43066
    43073
    43075
    43076
    43081
    43082
    43083
    43089

    EMT Class 153 DMUs:-
    153302
    153308
    153310
    153311
    153313
    153319
    153321
    153326
    153355
    153357
    153374
    153376
    153379
    153381
    153383
    153384
    153385

    EMT Class 156 DMUs:-
    156401
    156403
    156404
    156405
    156406
    156408
    156410
    156411
    156413
    156414
    156415
    156470
    156473
    156497
    156498

    EMT Class 158 DMUs:-
    158770
    158773
    158777
    158780
    158783
    158785
    158788
    158799
    158806
    158810
    158812
    158813
    158846
    158847
    158852
    158854
    158856
    158857
    158858
    158862
    158863
    158864
    158865
    158866
    158889

    EMT Meridians:-
    222001-222023
    222101-222104
     
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    thank you Fishqinn that is very help full
    im new to trains so i apologize
    so the 390 up to 050 are 9 coach and 390 103 onward are 11
     
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    thanks again fishquinn you are so helpful to us beginners
     
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    fishquinn Established Member Quizmaster

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    Thats right.
     
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    thanks folks im new to trains and like spotting them
     
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    Basically yes. If the unit number starts 3900xx (so called class 390/0) then it's 9 coaches. Units starting 3901xx (so called class 390/1) are 11 coach. You'll notice the numbers aren't consecutive. This is because some of the 9 coach 390/0s were converted into 11 coach units, making them 390/1s. I'm relatively new to it to!
     
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    thanks im learning slowly about trains
     
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    crehld Established Member Associate Staff Senior Fares Advisor

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    If you're interested in spotting / recording them you might find it useful to get a stock list book which will list everything - basically the same as the abrail website listed above, but much easier to carry about!

    I (and many other forum members) make use of the NREA. They're often stocked in station book shops, but you can also get it online.

    There is a similar book which I have from Platform 5 publications. It's more expensive but includes more information. Again available at many station bookshops and online.

    I'm sure many other similar publications exist!
     
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    CrossCountry (XC) power cars:
    43207
    43285
    43301
    43303
    43304
    43321
    43357
    43366
    43378
    43384

    XC Class 170 DMUs:-
    170101
    170102
    170103
    170104
    170105
    170106
    170107
    170108
    170109
    170110
    170111
    170112
    170113
    170114
    170115
    170116
    170117
    170397
    170398
    170518
    170519
    170520
    170521
    170522
    170523
    170636
    170637
    170638
    170639

    XC Voyagers::-
    220001-220034

    XC SuperVoyagers:-
    221119-221141


    The class 43s (HSTs) are locomotives and usually work with a 43 leading, 7 coaches (mk3s) and then another 43 on the back.

    The class 170s are formed of both 2 and 3 coaches and work around Birmingham. 170101-170110 are 3 coach, 170111-170117 are 2 coach, 170397 and 170398 are 3 coaches, 170518-170523 are 2 coaches and then 170636-170639 are 3 coaches.

    The class 220s are all formed of 4 coaches and in my opinion are the worst train on the network (along with 221s which are formed of 5 coaches except 221141 which is formed of 4).

    I hope this helps.
     
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    I'm sure I know that user name from PPRUNE's Thomas cook thread....
     
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    Don't forget that 390033 "City of Glasgow" was involved in the Grayrigg accident back in 2007, and was subsequently written off.
     
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    A slight exaggeration there! They're excellent when they are empty but they could of had a better sited air-con and more coaches. Also VTWC ones are cleaner and better maintained.

    I would rather have a 220 than most trains on the network.

    Sorry for going off topic.

    The list looks good, but you missed out the coaches.

    TF:
    41026
    41035
    41193-95

    TS:
    42036-38
    42051-53
    42097
    42234
    42290
    42342
    42366-80

    TGS:
    44012
    44017
    44021
    44052
    44072

    TC:
    45001-5
     
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    Can we not do whether or not Voyagers are nice/spawn of satan on this thread please? We've done it quite a few times over the years ;)
     
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    Seconded.
     
  22. DarloRich

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    just buy a combined stock book from amazon?

    The most recent platform 5 book is called

    British Railways Locomotives & Coaching Stock 2015: The Rolling Stock of Britain's Mainline Railway Operators and Light Rail Systems

    that will have all hte detials you could ever want ;)
     
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