Rome to Milan is 3hr thoughRome is at least another 4 hours from Rome by train
Yes I worked out I would need around 5 nights to do it by rail. Bonus is more holiday time and a stop in Paris. I did Zurich to Milan as a day trip but I could instead move to a hotel in a Milan for two nights and take in Rome for a day visit?Rome to Milan is 3hr though
I'm planning Sicily to Shipley later this year and will probably break the journey in Rome and then once more.
Rome to Yorkshire/Lowlands works reasonably well using the Venice-Milan-Paris sleeper, whereas via Munich is tight for timings.
Yes I have.I assume you have read the man in seat 61?
https://www.seat61.com/Italy.htm#London to Bologna, Florence, Rome, Naples
I can beat that in time at least. Get the 1422 Eurostar to Paris, Pick up the 1915 Thello Sleeper to Milan, gets you the 0700* Frecciarossa to Rome arriving 1007.If you start in London at 07:16, you can arrive into Roma Terminii on the second morning - about 24 hours later.
You would change at Brussels-Midi, Frankfurt(Main)Hbf, and München Hbf. At München Hbf, you would board the modern and comfortable NightJet train for a good night's sleep, arriving into Roma at 09:22.
The journey by train would be far more exciting and interesting than a dull flight, and as you say, you hate flying anyway. It's a no-brainer for that distance!
That’s right but I may not be able to avoid it first day I worked out I could travel down to Lille and avoid busy Paris and catch a 3 hour train to Lyon. I could be in Milan in under 5 hours from Lyon. Rome seems possible in a day. I could also manage to fit a few hours in Basel to avoid a solid 7 hour journey back as i often do 3/4 hours there and back in a day. My plan eventually is do Munich to Vienna in a day.As the OP prefers not to travel for more than 6hr/day (from previous posts), to avoid night trains, and doesn't apparently travel light (post #12), I would split the journey Edinburgh-Paris-Turin-Rome and return via Lausanne/Geneva-Paris or possibly Zurich/Basel-Paris.
As an alternative to the big cities, and to split the travel better, I would consider Brig or Sion for Lausanne and the bottom end of Lake Lucerne (Fluelen/Brunnen); in the latter case I would think about switching to the old Gotthard route as well.
Coming via Basel, yet another option for the middle day is via Strasbourg-Lille, as there is a convenient afternoon train.
I went from Brussels to Torino by train (TGV) just 2 weeks ago. I must say that I have not been overly impressed by the scenery encountered on the way. Quite dull till Lyon, a bit better after, but still way below what you can see in Switzerland or Austria. If scenery is the objective, then don't take thus route. Otherwise, the night part of the traject won't make you miss much.Faster, but it's still a 19 hour journey time (+plus ES check-in time), with probably not a lot of sleep (especially if you're going to get off the sleeper at 06:05) and missing a lot of the scenery in the darkness.
An overnight stop isn't needed. First train from London to Paris in the morning, then train to Turin. Then there's plenty of time to get a high-speed train from Turin to Rome arriving the same evening.Which is better? Eurostar and connecting trains or flying? I hate flying but the train may cost more due to extra stops overnight.
Note that the OP is starting from Edinburgh, and doesn't like spending more than 4 hours on a train without a reasonable break.An overnight stop isn't needed. First train from London to Paris in the morning, then train to Turin. Then there's plenty of time to get a high-speed train from Turin to Rome arriving the same evening.
Yes I looked at an hour change in Lille enough time for dinner. Is there much around the station in Lyon given I would arrive late? I am keen to visit Lyon but may deserve a full day to go back next time. I did Zurich to Milan was great views. Keen to maybe stop in Basel instead to see how that compares to Zurich. I worked out I could do Rome in 4 nights two nights in Milan and a night in Lyon and Paris.Lyon is easy from Edinburgh in a day; even easier if you change at Lille. Plenty to see in the evening and fantastic restaurants. Very scenic to Turin via TGV. Return from Milan via Zurich even more scenic and direct TGV possible Zurich-Paris with onward connections to UK.