Farrell has been the best fly half by far in the tournament, no question. He is some talent, but he comes from good stock!
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Farrell has been the best fly half by far in the tournament, no question. He is some talent, but he comes from good stock!
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Ivo
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One right, one wrong. The one that was wrong being that one that exceeded my expectations. Not bad
Xenophon PCDGS
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Indeed this is very true and his father, Andy Farrell, had a long career in Rugby League before changing codes and has played for England in both Rugby League and Rugby Union.
Owen Farrell received his early grounding in a structured team situation and was playing Rugby League at the tender age of 8 for junior teams at the Wigan St Patricks club.
And the media was saying pre tournament he was only in the team because his father was on the coaching team!!! They will have to eat their words there!
And Graham Rowntree's transformation of our scrummaging is nothing short of a miracle.
Yes, but it's not the first time the media have got it wrong!
they get it wrong a good 75% of time i think if not more
Butts
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Congratulations to Wales on their victory in the tournament.
As for us losing to Italy was the final humiliation - Robinson is supposed to be in situ till the next World Cup, but I feel he should do the honourable thing.
We need a Martin O'Neill of the Rugby World if such a person exists
As for us losing to Italy was the final humiliation - Robinson is supposed to be in situ till the next World Cup, but I feel he should do the honourable thing.
We need a Martin O'Neill of the Rugby World if such a person exists
Don't worry - Wales will pay England all the due royalties for the copyright on "winning ugly."
Xenophon PCDGS
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Perhaps a new thread should now be opened for any matters about this game. Let us start off with the latest friendly match....
S A Barbarians 26...England 54
S A Barbarians 26...England 54
Or better; mods could rename this thread "Rugby Union Thread" 
Wales II XV 25-15 ACT Brumbies. Good win; perhaps some of those youngsters could be named for Saturday's rubber. Latest I've seen is Tipuric 7, Warburton 8 in for Faletau.
Meanwhile, the U20s have been drawn against NZ again for the semifinal of the JWC in Saf Efrika. Sadly despite putting 74 points on Samoa, I think the Welsh will lose to the Baby Blacks if the weather is fine, but to be the sole NH representative is quite pleasing. If by the gods we win again, I reckon we'll win the whole thing, making Wales world champs in two rugby grades. Future's not looking too shabby for our national game.
Wales II XV 25-15 ACT Brumbies. Good win; perhaps some of those youngsters could be named for Saturday's rubber. Latest I've seen is Tipuric 7, Warburton 8 in for Faletau.
Meanwhile, the U20s have been drawn against NZ again for the semifinal of the JWC in Saf Efrika. Sadly despite putting 74 points on Samoa, I think the Welsh will lose to the Baby Blacks if the weather is fine, but to be the sole NH representative is quite pleasing. If by the gods we win again, I reckon we'll win the whole thing, making Wales world champs in two rugby grades. Future's not looking too shabby for our national game.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Or better; mods could rename this thread "Rugby Union Thread"
....and before you could blink your eyes, it was done...
We have the most attentive moderators that you could hope for.
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England have just announced that Owen Farrell has been dropped for the Second Test against South Africa that will be played in Johannesburg.
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Saturday, 16th June
Australia 25...Wales 23
In a match of fluctating fortunes, Australia who were losing 23-22 were awarded a penalty two minutes into added on time for injury.
Michael Harris, unfortunately for Wales, scores with the kick and wins the match for Australia.
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Xenophon PCDGS
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New Zealand 22...Ireland 19
Yet another Northern Hemisphere club is foiled at the end by a kick for points by the opposition.
Ireland were 10-9 up at half-time, but with the match poised at 19-19 just before the end, fly-half Dan Carter drops a goal to give the match to the All Blacks.
Yet another Northern Hemisphere club is foiled at the end by a kick for points by the opposition.
Ireland were 10-9 up at half-time, but with the match poised at 19-19 just before the end, fly-half Dan Carter drops a goal to give the match to the All Blacks.
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England's 2nd half was so much better and at one point before the final try I though maybe we could win.
Perhaps next Saturday but I was pleasantly surprised.
Perhaps next Saturday but I was pleasantly surprised.
Xenophon PCDGS
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England ring the changes for the third Test Match against South Africa with Alex Goode and Thomas Waldrom making their first starts and both James Haskell and Danny Care returning.
It's because Howley lacks the bottle to make any changes. And because he refused to take Biggar as back up.
I'm afraid another defeat looks highly likely.
Two words that rhyme with Flames Cook.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Saturday, 23rd June 2012
Australia 20....Wales 19
Another occasion in this series where Australia were again awarded a late penalty, which was converted by Berrick Barnes to win the match for Australia.
The standard of some of the refereeing decisions seemed somewhat questionable.
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Three more tour match results just in....
Samoa 16...Scotland 17
New Zealand 60...Ireland 0
South Africa 14...England 14
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Sunday, 24th June 2012
Argentina 10....France 49.....(Second Test match of the series).
France looked determined to avenge their narrow 23-20 defeat in the first Test and attacked straight from the start and at half-time, they had built up a remarkable 30-3 lead. The second half was conducted at a more even tempo but France still scored a further 19 points in that period.
The French backs scored five tries between them and fly-half Frederic Michalek scored 19 of the points (5 conversions and 3 penalties).
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Xenophon PCDGS
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It now seems a good time to awaken this thread from its dormancy...
Reports state that the Rugby Football Union have appointed both Sir Ian McGeechan and the former UK Sport performance director, Peter Keen, as independent consultants to lead a performance review of the England rugby union team.
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Four Nations Tournement.......Opening fixture results
South Africa...27....Argentina 6
Australia........19....New Zealand 27
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Sad news from the birthplace of Rugby Union
Rugby Lions, with their 139 year history, have not only entered into liquidation but cannot pay their creditors and have missed the deadline set for part-repayments of the club debts.
The result of this is the Rugby Football Union have now ejected Rugby Lions from National League Two South. This league will now play the 2012-2013 season as a 15-club league.
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Four Nations Tournament
Argentina 16...South Africa 16
Almost a surprise result, with Argentina totally dominant in the first-half.
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Saturday, 1st September
Exeter Chiefs 43...Sale Sharks 6
Danny Cipriani's debut for Sale was not a happy one, as they were only 11-3 down when he came off the bench in the first half. Exeter to their credit put on a strong second-half performance and were rewarded with no less than five tries in the final 40 minutes.
Reports state that the Rugby Football Union have appointed both Sir Ian McGeechan and the former UK Sport performance director, Peter Keen, as independent consultants to lead a performance review of the England rugby union team.
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Four Nations Tournement.......Opening fixture results
South Africa...27....Argentina 6
Australia........19....New Zealand 27
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Sad news from the birthplace of Rugby Union
Rugby Lions, with their 139 year history, have not only entered into liquidation but cannot pay their creditors and have missed the deadline set for part-repayments of the club debts.
The result of this is the Rugby Football Union have now ejected Rugby Lions from National League Two South. This league will now play the 2012-2013 season as a 15-club league.
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Four Nations Tournament
Argentina 16...South Africa 16
Almost a surprise result, with Argentina totally dominant in the first-half.
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Saturday, 1st September
Exeter Chiefs 43...Sale Sharks 6
Danny Cipriani's debut for Sale was not a happy one, as they were only 11-3 down when he came off the bench in the first half. Exeter to their credit put on a strong second-half performance and were rewarded with no less than five tries in the final 40 minutes.
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fgwrich
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Very shocked and saddend to hear this bit of news from Ulster.
Sadly it seems to have happend on the family farm up in Ulster. So sadly, not just a loss of a very talented up and coming player for both Ulster & Irish Rugby, but also a sad loss to the Northern Irish Farming Community. RIP Nevin, RIP Nevins Brother and RIP to Nevins Father, Hope Nevins sister makes a full recovery, and Condolences to the Spence family and friends, and Ulster Rugby.
(London Irish supporter)
Sadly it seems to have happend on the family farm up in Ulster. So sadly, not just a loss of a very talented up and coming player for both Ulster & Irish Rugby, but also a sad loss to the Northern Irish Farming Community. RIP Nevin, RIP Nevins Brother and RIP to Nevins Father, Hope Nevins sister makes a full recovery, and Condolences to the Spence family and friends, and Ulster Rugby.
(London Irish supporter)
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Xenophon PCDGS
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I am quite concerned as to the hopes and aspirations of Sale Sharks in continuing to be able to participate at the very highest level of club rugby, with the last two seasons being a very worrying time for their supporters at the bottom end of the table, where only even poorer form and results of the relegated team saved Sale Sharks from relegation. Last season's end of the season recovery proved to be a false dawn.
The earlier match this season against Exeter Chiefs was a salutary warning to them and yesterday's performance, admittedly against a very good side, showed poor commitment and teamwork.
The earlier match this season against Exeter Chiefs was a salutary warning to them and yesterday's performance, admittedly against a very good side, showed poor commitment and teamwork.
Very shocked and saddend to hear this bit of news from Ulster.
Sadly it seems to have happend on the family farm up in Ulster. So sadly, not just a loss of a very talented up and coming player for both Ulster & Irish Rugby, but also a sad loss to the Northern Irish Farming Community. RIP Nevin, RIP Nevins Brother and RIP to Nevins Father, Hope Nevins sister makes a full recovery, and Condolences to the Spence family and friends, and Ulster Rugby.
(London Irish supporter)
It sounds like an awfully bizarre accident, falling into a slurry tank
Condolences to all that knew them.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Since I wrote this, Sale Sharks have now gone down to their sixth consecutive Premiership league defeat, this time by 20-9 at home to Leicester last Friday. Surely, the writing is on the wall and there needs to be a drastic shake-up of the coaching staff and, if possible, new motivational staff employed. Matters have been uncertain since the move to the new shared ground and the owner's flirtation with Rangers FC during the summer.
I can see similarities being drawn to the football club that I hold dear in my heart, Oldham Athletic, who were founder members of the English Football Premiership who spurned the offers of financial backing and the promise of a top manager and his coaching staff from abroad, and decided to stay with the status quo. It did not take long for them to assume their current position of two divisions further down in status.
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Xenophon PCDGS
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Sale Sharks are not the only rugby team in our area to have a disastrous start to the season, but you expect this from Manchester Rugby Club, who have now matched Sale Sharks six match losing start to the season by endeavouring to lose 62-17 to Altrincham Kersal in the Northern Division North West 1 West league.
Just think..four successive relegations from what was once matches against very good teams in a high National League not so many years ago. Mind you, they readily conceded scores of over 100 points against two years ago and I think the 150 point mark was reached, possibly on a couple of occasions.
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Heineken Cup....Sunday 14th October
Sale Sharks 34...Cardiff Blues 33
In the immortal words of Victor Meldrew..."I just don't believe it" !!!
Just think..four successive relegations from what was once matches against very good teams in a high National League not so many years ago. Mind you, they readily conceded scores of over 100 points against two years ago and I think the 150 point mark was reached, possibly on a couple of occasions.
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Heineken Cup....Sunday 14th October
Sale Sharks 34...Cardiff Blues 33
In the immortal words of Victor Meldrew..."I just don't believe it" !!!
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Cardiff Blues have not had a very good start to the season either, as their Director of Rugby Phil Davies admitted after the Sale match.
Not many surprises in the opening games of the Heineken. The only prediction I got wrong was Paris Metro 92 winning their game!
Not many surprises in the opening games of the Heineken. The only prediction I got wrong was Paris Metro 92 winning their game!
Xenophon PCDGS
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Friday, 2nd November 2012
Sale Sharks 21...London Irish 9
At long last, a first win this new season in the Premiership. I wonder how much the move that Steve Diamond made to take over the first-team matters from Bryan Redpath (now in a position of head coach) made the betterment of the team spirit. Danny Cipriani was said to have been more like the player of old in this match.
Sale Sharks 21...London Irish 9
At long last, a first win this new season in the Premiership. I wonder how much the move that Steve Diamond made to take over the first-team matters from Bryan Redpath (now in a position of head coach) made the betterment of the team spirit. Danny Cipriani was said to have been more like the player of old in this match.
fgwrich
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I'd noticed (unfortunatly). I was always going to be abit of a tought match, as (us) London Irish were wanting the points to make up for that semi controversial Try by Quins right in the dying seconds of last Sundays match, and Sale needed the points for well, it's first win of the season.