Running out of tickets.

[Bletchleyite]

That size of DB ticket is only what you get from ticket machines and possibly on-board sales. Ticket offices issue large-format ATB tickets (which are in some if not all cases printed as a tear-off from a sheet of A4 to allow a regular laser printer to be used).

 

[monsento]

has anyone ever posted or suggested a nationwide oyster/itso where tickets are loaded onto a card, or picked up at gates by tagging on, see Oyster AT Hop etc

so wherever you go buy a ticket you tap the card at the machine on purchase or gate if bought online ticket appears on card, simples....

then all the guard would need is a reader and maybe one of those mobile izettle machines to sell ticketless passengers cards like we did in auckland.

doubtful of maori wardens being allowed to throw ticketless travellers of trains here though

 

[pemma]

has anyone ever posted or suggested a nationwide oyster/itso where tickets are loaded onto a card, or picked up at gates by tagging on, see Oyster AT Hop etc

That might work if our ticketing system was straight forward.

If you touched in at Stockport and touched out at Newcastle would you be charged the fare for travelling via Sheffield or the fare for travelling via Manchester?

I suppose if that was resolved you could be charged the single fare and then charged the difference between the single and return fare if you make the return journey within 1 month.

However, what if your outbound journey and return journey were slightly different? For instance, if you do
Day 1: Stockport to Newcastle
Day 8: Newcastle to Sunderland
Day 14: Sunderland to Newcastle
What ticket(s) would you be charged

 

[Dent]

If ticket stocks really are getting low then this would be a good opportunity to introduce a new design that works better with the new ticket layouts.

 

[najaB]

If you touched in at Stockport and touched out at Newcastle would you be charged the fare for travelling via Sheffield or the fare for travelling via Manchester?

ITSO ≠ PAYG.

You can load 'regular' point to point tickets and travel cards as well.

 

[pemma]

Northern seem to have found some old 'Rail Settlement Plan' stock which has found it's way in to circulation.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I wonder if any unused stocks of the notorious K&J April 1987 issue might eventually re-surface...

 

[CyrusWuff]

I wonder if any unused stocks of the notorious K&J April 1987 issue might eventually re-surface...

Unlikely, given that predates the use of thermal printers (other than PORTIS), so would be no use at all nowadays.

 

[Blindtraveler]

Has the ticket stock crisis been solved yet?

 

[plymothian]

TfL stock (with the roundel background) has found its way to Bristol.

 

[swt_passenger]

TfL stock (with the roundel background) has found its way to Bristol.

Hope it hasn't arrived complete with corresponding £80 penalty fare chits...

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

Slightly related... I was at hull Paragon this afternoon to make an enquiry about a journey I wanted to make and was surprised to see both a PORTIS and a SPORTIS machine in working order sitting on the work area behind the member of staff

Next thing I know, we'll be issued Edmonson tickets!

 

[CyrusWuff]

Slightly related... I was at hull Paragon this afternoon to make an enquiry about a journey I wanted to make and was surprised to see both a PORTIS and a SPORTIS machine in working order sitting on the work area behind the member of staff

FSVO "working order" I assume, given the docking time limit? Unless they've got a DRU or SPMU to go with them.

 

[34D]

I wonder if any unused stocks of the notorious K&J April 1987 issue might eventually re-surface...

Slightly related... I was at hull Paragon this afternoon to make an enquiry about a journey I wanted to make and was surprised to see both a PORTIS and a SPORTIS machine in working order sitting on the work area behind the member of staff

Next thing I know, we'll be issued Edmonson tickets!

Sirs, you've both confused me. Please help explain the acronyms.

 

[najaB]

Sirs, you've both confused me. Please help explain the acronyms.

Wikipedia to the rescue.

 

[34D]

Wikipedia to the rescue.

And K&J that was the one that really stumped me?

 

[najaB]

And K&J that was the one that really stumped me?

You're not the only one...

 

[father_jack]

TfL stock (with the roundel background) has found its way to Bristol.

Can I ask where ????

 

[grumblingalong]

Had a few TfL stock issued from Lowestoft today too

 

[Peter Mugridge]

And K&J that was the one that really stumped me?

K&J = one of the print codes on the backs of the tickets.

A large batch produced in April 1987 had a large percentage with defective magnetic strips. Ticket office staff told me at the time that they had so many complaints of the tickets not opening gates that the whole batch was withdrawn pretty quickly.

It should be stressed here and now that it is not necessarily the fault of the printer when something like this happens - poor protection in storage / transit can easily be a factor.

 

[causton]

Had a few TfL stock issued from Lowestoft today too

And yet I have seen some from the DC line area on normal stock! Brilliant!

 

[TEW]

Back to the original title of this thread. Epsom and Ashtead were unable to issue tickets this morning, due to a shortage of ticket stock.

 

[infobleep]

Back to the original title of this thread. Epsom and Ashtead were unable to issue tickets this morning, due to a shortage of ticket stock.

How did they get around the problem?

 

[TEW]

By telling people to buy on-board or at their destinations initially. I guess they sourced some ticket stock form elsewhere eventually.

 

[infobleep]

Thanks for reply TEW. If necessary van they write out tickets these days or does it all need to be entered into a computer device and printed. Not saying they owned actually want to do this of course.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

By telling people to buy on-board or at their destinations initially. I guess they sourced some ticket stock form elsewhere eventually.

Would all guards have been notified about the station having run out of blank ticket stock?

 

[RPM]

K&J = one of the print codes on the backs of the tickets.

A large batch produced in April 1987 had a large percentage with defective magnetic strips. Ticket office staff told me at the time that they had so many complaints of the tickets not opening gates that the whole batch was withdrawn pretty quickly.

It should be stressed here and now that it is not necessarily the fault of the printer when something like this happens - poor protection in storage / transit can easily be a factor.

K&J stands for Kenrick & Jefferson Ltd, one of several printing firms which supplied BR with APTIS ticket blanks. BR's multi-sourcing policy for tickets seems rather sensible in light of the current difficulties.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Thanks; I'd always wondered what the initials stood for.

 

[TEW]

Would all guards have been notified about the station having run out of blank ticket stock?

The message was paged out to all SWT staff, I guess Southern staff were similarly notified.

 

[RPM]

Thanks; I'd always wondered what the initials stood for.

If you really want to know I can tell you what all the other printer codes refer to, but it requires me to dig out some old notes so I won't bother unless requested