ScotRail HST Introduction - Updates & Discussion

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  1. Northhighland

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    Completely agree, from a passenger perspective classic HST’s are an improvement, a pretty significant improvement. The issues you list as problems is accurate but of little interest to passengers.
     
  2. jingsmonty

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    I bet...! I know this is going off-topic, but I wonder what Scotrail could possibly replace the 158s with in the future? THe HSTs (in my opinion) are FAR superior to a 170 & light years ahead of a 158...not so practical for the more 'rural' routes though
     
  3. jopsuk

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    The 158s will eventually be replaced by Scotrail/Transport Scotland issuing a specification for their replacement and inviting interested parties to bid against it. Speculation as to what that could be is pointless as it may involve product lines that are not yet in existence. Such speculation is definitely, wildly, off topic
     
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    I wonder if this will happen? http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91804/2019/01/11/advanced
     
  5. InOban

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    A pity I'm not in Edinburgh. When I am I stay close to the Sub, and could catch it between Niddrie and Morningside.
     
  6. Goldromans

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    I’m guessing the second set is going to Perth so that they can get Perth and Inverness crew trained?
     
  7. jingsmonty

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    I know it's off topic, apologies! I will just be glad once we have a fleet of fully refurbished HSTs running on the Inter7City network in Scotland. It's a long, slow & painful process, but I hope we will get there at some point....
     
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    I hope so - the refurbished set hasn't made an appearance on the HML at all, as far as I'm aware....not sure what training the Conductors will need, but I imagine us drivers will just need a quick brief on the working of the Traction Interlock/over ride systems - maybe just a traincrew notice?
     
  9. chuff chuff

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    No a little bit more than that involved.
     
  10. gingertom

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    been posted about upthread, #5365
     
  11. nat67

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    If no one has mentioned it already (43096). But what's going on with 43129 at the moment.
     
  12. fishquinn

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    Repairs at Brush, Loughborough.
     
  13. Grandnat

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    I was delighted to get the refurbished unit on a trip from Dundee to Edinburgh on Monday. A pleasant surprise I wasn’t expecting

    Very clean, bright and modern and comfortable.

    Had a look in the First Class section and that looked good too - though no one sat in there.
     
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    Aye, we'll need training on the power door operation too, I suppose - I assume that door checks will be part of a Driver's safety check/prep duties? They aren't for classic sets.
     
  15. chuff chuff

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    Yep. ..
     
  16. GregA

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    Just passed the refurbished set, it's currently sitting in the southbound loop at Dalmeny (1608). It's in service as there are passengers on it, anyone know why it has been looped here (overtook it on the southbound Aberdeen service)?
    EDIT: It was on a southbound service.
     
  17. Highlandspring

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    Speedometer defect on 43183.
     
  18. GregA

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    So how far did the set make it then? Up to Dalmeny then returning back to Edinburgh?
     
  19. Highlandspring

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    Yes, Waverley - Dalmeny UPL - Haymarket platform 0
     
  20. InvHst

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    I believe that is it's path if not then rumoured date is 14th or 24th January will be up by end of January Inverness won't see the refurb units till the sidings work are complete wouldn't be surprised to see crew from inverness be trained in perth on it ready for service
     
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    Another failure is disappointing, I saw it leaving Haymarket, looked pretty well loaded. Is it just 'one of those things' or is it starting to look like there are deeper problems with the HSTs?
     
  22. Highlandspring

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    The isolated ATP equipment (which ties in with the speedo) is causing problems. The powercars are now having it fully removed rather than isolated.
     
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    As above.
     
  24. Essexman

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    On Tuesday I caught the 14.51(?) from Perth to Inverness which was supposed to be an HST but was disappointed to find was a 170. I saw several other departures from Inverness Tuesday & Wednesday that had apologies for being only 3 coaches and no sign of an HST in service.

    158 on Far North Line to Brora was OK yesterday. Not exactly busy. Only five passengers on board after I got out at Brora.
     
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    Kind of unfortunate it wasn’t turned at Inverkeithing, but I guess it’s easier to try to sort at Haymarket rather than Clayhills
     
  26. chuff chuff

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    Gee a long run to Aberdeen with no speedo.
     
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    How utterly predictable. It just exposes ScotRail's lack of knowledge.

    You'll be telling us next that ScotRail want the Brush electronics upgrade which includes a new Knorr-Bremse wheelslip control system that extends overhaul periods by about 100,000 miles.
     
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    Very unhappy customers on Twitter because of this.
     
  29. hexagon789

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    They should've got that in the first place.
     
  30. Bletchleyite

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    The Inverness 158s are just about the best of the breed in my view.
     

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