ScotRail HST Introduction - Updates & Discussion

[Altnabreac]

To be honest, if it's not specifically a Scotrail HST you're after, you could visit the most northerly city by HST right now, by catching the Highland Chieftain (12.00 London KX to Inverness)...it's been running since 1984.

Unless he's referring to visiting the City and Royal Burgh of Elgin?

 

[Highland37]

Monday to Saturday has 4 services in total which are Scheduled 0453 and 0554 departures from Inverness to aberdeen

And 0614 and 2156 from Aberdeen to Inverness are hst operated but obviously crew and unit availability.
Sunday has a few as well but which ones I'm not 100% sure

My bad. I didn't realise that. I might be on the 2156 next week.

 

[jingsmonty]

Has the 1934 1A88 Edinburgh-Aberdeen been a HST recently.

Cheers Nat.

Not 100% sure, but is this not booked for a 170 anyway? I know 1A87 (1840 from Glasgow QS - Aberdeen) is booked an HST, as this is shunted at Aberdeen to form 1H43 (2156 to Inverness).

 

[nat67]

Not 100% sure, but is this not booked for a 170 anyway?

Cheers, I know that it should be a HST as it's on the diagrams up until May. Just not sure if it runs a HST very often.

 

[BRX]

Saw someone off on the 1255 from Inverness this afternoon... It was a 170 though, disappointingly.

 

[Highland37]

I got the 1026 Aviemore to Edinburgh today 170

 

[Highlandspring]

43148 HA05 43140 failed at Haymarket platform 2 on 1A81 1736 Edinburgh Waverley - Aberdeen, LNER thunderbird from Craigentinny coming to assist.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Craigentinny

Off topic but how is it pronounced?

 

[Highlandspring]

Craig En Tin Nee (everyone in the industry just calls it Craigy)

 

[LOL The Irony]

Craig En Tin Nee (everyone in the industry just calls it Craigy)

Thanks

 

[nat67]

43148 HA05 43140 failed at Haymarket platform 2 on 1A81 1736 Edinburgh Waverley - Aberdeen, LNER thunderbird from Craigentinny coming to assist.

That must have caused some havoc.

 

[InOban]

Is causing. Not past tense!

 

[najaB]

Is the set that failed last week (43176/135 I think) very poorly? It made it to Dundee but doesn't seem to have moved since.

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

To be honest, if it's not specifically a Scotrail HST you're after, you could visit the most northerly city by HST right now, by catching the Highland Chieftain (12.00 London KX to Inverness)...it's been running since 1984.

Thanks but I won't be doing Inverness til 2021 . Any HST to Inverness will do me. A Scotrail one will sound the same as a normal MTU HST - except for the plug doors of course .

 

[Stoney1979]

We'll never know but it would be interesting to find out how many HSTs didn't fail today. And how many 170/158s/others did. In the interests of objectivity.

 

[anamyd]

Is causing. Not past tense!

correcting people is disliked by mods.

 

[johnnychips]

correcting people is disliked by mods.

I think he was pointing out the disruption is ongoing, not correcting the grammar.

 

[Highland37]

We'll never know but it would be interesting to find out how many HSTs didn't fail today. And how many 170/158s/others did. In the interests of objectivity.

Yes that would be a good point to compare.

Any imminent sign of the eminent, imminent, third set?

 

[BRX]

Took these two photos of sidings being (re)laid at Inverness this afternoon. Are these the stabling points for the HSTs?

 

[InvHst]

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Took these two photos of sidings being (re)laid at Inverness this afternoon. Are these the stabling points for the HSTs?

They are indeed

 

[47271]

Has the 1934 1A88 Edinburgh-Aberdeen been a HST recently.

Cheers Nat.

It was last Thursday, 7 March. Meanwhile I boarded a 158 as the 1942 to Inverness on an adjacent platform.

I'm so over these trains now. The refurbishment's a farce, the training's a farce, the deployment of the classic sets is a farce, the provision of stabling facilities is a farce.

If we ever get the full complement of refurbed sets then great, what will be will be. Meanwhile I'm totally resigned to the Abellio franchise stumbling to its conclusion with a hotchpotch of a few refurbed HSTs, classic HSTs, 170s and 158s.

Then another outfit will come along with another idea ahead of the next franchise.

Would anyone else like to predict an alternative scenario?

 

[Goldromans]

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R00379/2019/03/15/advanced

Any clue what this path could be for?

 

[Far north 37]

They are indeed

They were always there but im sure there was only two roads there before not three.

 

[Highland37]

It was last Thursday, 7 March. Meanwhile I boarded a 158 as the 1942 to Inverness on an adjacent platform.

I'm so over these trains now. The refurbishment's a farce, the training's a farce, the deployment of the classic sets is a farce, the provision of stabling facilities is a farce.

If we ever get the full complement of refurbed sets then great, what will be will be. Meanwhile I'm totally resigned to the Abellio franchise stumbling to its conclusion with a hotchpotch of a few refurbed HSTs, classic HSTs, 170s and 158s.

Then another outfit will come along with another idea ahead of the next franchise.

Would anyone else like to predict an alternative scenario?

I have had one HST this year and use the train a lot. Like you say, it is a farce and wabtec are clearly miles off. How anyone can take them seriously is beyond me.

It's mid March and ONE set has been delivered this year yet they are saying all sets by the end of the year.

Theresa May has more credibility

 

[Far north 37]

Read wabtec using kilmarnock now to convert some of the scotrail sets.
Not sure how long it will take staff to understand the program but working in engineering myself it wont be as straightforward as just jumping in and getting straight on with it unless they have carried out this work before.

 

[anamyd]

I think he was pointing out the disruption is ongoing, not correcting the grammar.

oh...

 

[InOban]

The fault which aborted the (already delayed) delivery last Saturday must have been quite major, since there is no sign of it being rescheduled. Unless it's an engine failure, and the path from Haymarket to Doncaster is for an engine.

 

[jingsmonty]

Thanks but I won't be doing Inverness til 2021 . Any HST to Inverness will do me. A Scotrail one will sound the same as a normal MTU HST - except for the plug doors of course .

The power doors aren't plug doors (like the Chiltern LHCS Mk3s have), they're class 156 style sliding doors. Less complicated, cheaper & easier to fit - but, arguably, not as neat looking.

 

[jingsmonty]

They were always there but im sure there was only two roads there before not three.

No, there was always 3 roads there (no. 6, 7 & 8 roads, as they were/are called). They are being relaid & remodelled, as only 7 road (middle one) was long enough for a 4+2 HST (we used to stable the training train there) - at the cost of fouling the 2 roads on either side!

I believe shore supplies are being installed here, once the rest of the work has been completed.

 

[jingsmonty]

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R00379/2019/03/15/advanced

Any clue what this path could be for?

Just a stab in the dark, but could this be a power car move (if there has been a serious PC failure with the PCs at Doncaster) to facilitate set 3's imminent move?

Or, even more optimistically, a movement of PCs to mate up with set 4?