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ScotRail HST Introduction - Updates & Discussion

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InvHst said:
Apart from the 1439 to Inverness from Glasgow via Aberdeen and the 1840 Glasgow to Aberdeen
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I must be misunderstanding you - do you mean that these are the only Scotrail intercity services not operated by HSTs from today onwards?

That can't be right, for example the 0636 Inverness-Edinburgh and 1807 Queen Street-Inverness are still 170s? The 1807 has to run as 2×170 for the foreseeable future otherwise there's social distancing issues on the commuter leg as far as Dunblane.
 
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47271 said:
I must be misunderstanding you - do you mean that these are the only Scotrail intercity services not operated by HSTs from today onwards?

That can't be right, for example the 0636 Inverness-Edinburgh and 1807 Queen Street-Inverness are still 170s? The 1807 has to run as 2×170 for the foreseeable future otherwise there's social distancing issues on the commuter leg as far as Dunblane.
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I meant to put Aberdeen to Glasgow services apologies. 1807 is back to 3 car operation due to an increase in services highly doubt we will see that as a 6 car again
 
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InvHst said:
1807 is back to 3 car operation due to an increase in services highly doubt we will see that as a 6 car again
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That's going to be interesting when an Inverness passenger with a counted place reservation can't board safely at Queen Street because the thing's already busy with Stirling area commuters. I was on it last week and it was more than fine as 6, but I wouldn't fancy it with the combination of more travel and reduced capacity.

Sorry, not exactly on topic, but the relevant point is that it's one that could probably benefit from the extra capacity provided by an HST.

Staying with the subject of making the best use of available capacity, do you know what the deal is with Scotrail First Class at the moment? You can't buy anything other than Standard Class Anytimes online so, I assume, First Class runs around empty when the capacity could be put to good use to maximise social distancing. Is it downgraded and they're just not saying as much?
 
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47271 said:
That's going to be interesting when an Inverness passenger with a counted place reservation can't board safely at Queen Street because the thing's already busy with Stirling area commuters. I was on it last week and it was more than fine as 6, but I wouldn't fancy it with the combination of more travel and reduced capacity.

Sorry, not exactly on topic, but the relevant point is that it's one that could probably benefit from the extra capacity provided by an HST.

Staying with the subject of making the best use of available capacity, do you know what the deal is with Scotrail First Class at the moment? You can't buy anything other than Standard Class Anytimes online so, I assume, First Class runs around empty when the capacity could be put to good use to maximise social distancing. Is it downgraded and they're just not saying as much?
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First Class on a HST is withdrawn at the moment and is used for staff travelling PASS or working. On the DMU/EMU services it has been declassified.
 
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First Class on a HST is withdrawn at the moment and is used for staff travelling PASS or working. On the DMU/EMU services it has been declassified.
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Thanks, helpful to know. That HST capacity is going to be needed for paying passengers before long I think...
 
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Thanks, helpful to know. That HST capacity is going to be needed for paying passengers before long I think...
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I agree. In the past couple of weeks I've travelled Edinburgh-Aberdeen, Aberdeen-Glasgow QS and Haymarket-Dundee on them and they have been packed in Standard.
 
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I agree. In the past couple of weeks I've travelled Edinburgh-Aberdeen, Aberdeen-Glasgow QS and Haymarket-Dundee on them and they have been packed in Standard.
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Indeed, it certainly was particularly busy last week in standard on all the services I travelled on (HST Wise, EMU Wise but not so much DMU Wise). 98% of people Adhearing to the social distancing / mask wearing rules, sadly the odd one or two didn't including one passenger who took her mask off when boarding, and spent the rest of the journey doing her make up instead.

Back to topic though, from my observations last week all the HST operated services had a good patronage using them.
 
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That's going to be interesting when an Inverness passenger with a counted place reservation can't board safely at Queen Street because the thing's already busy with Stirling area commuters. I was on it last week and it was more than fine as 6, but I wouldn't fancy it with the combination of more travel and reduced capacity.

Sorry, not exactly on topic, but the relevant point is that it's one that could probably benefit from the extra capacity provided by an HST.

Staying with the subject of making the best use of available capacity, do you know what the deal is with Scotrail First Class at the moment? You can't buy anything other than Standard Class Anytimes online so, I assume, First Class runs around empty when the capacity could be put to good use to maximise social distancing. Is it downgraded and they're just not saying as much?
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Has that system been introduced yet?
 
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Staying with the subject of making the best use of available capacity, do you know what the deal is with Scotrail First Class at the moment?
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Website says they stopped selling first class tickets from Tuesday 16th June.
 
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I think I know what my guess is.
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If there's 2 sets of cars to come north, I don't know why they need 2 delivery runs. It's not as though a pair of power cars can't move 8- they've been moving 9 car formations up and down the ECML, Drumochter and Slocht for donkeys years.
 
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If there's 2 sets of cars to come north, I don't know why they need 2 delivery runs. It's not as though a pair of power cars can't move 8- they've been moving 9 car formations up and down the ECML, Drumochter and Slocht for donkeys years.
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It would certainly make sense. And with today’s path not having moved yet, it’s definitely possible. (And would give us an opportunity to see an 8-car ScotRail HST!)
 
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Path for next power cars tomorrow. Fingers crossed for today's delivery in 30 minutes.
 
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Anyone have the formation of the set coming north today?
 
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It's HA 11 formed 40611(ex 41130) - 42267 - 42325 - 42301. Power cars 43151 and 43124
 
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fgwrich said:
Ah, excellent thanks. Am I right in thinking this is the 19th set delivered then - hence the confusion around which HA Set it was?
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Yes, it is the 19th set. Sets are now numbered based on the last two digits of the TGFB vehicle.
 
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fgwrich said:
Ah, excellent thanks. Am I right in thinking this is the 19th set delivered then - hence the confusion around which HA Set it was?
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Indeed, 19th set but not HA19. The HAXX designation now corresponds to the last two digits of the TGFB coach (ie 40611 on set 19 makes it HA11).
 
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