GrimShady
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Does anyone know what the working hours are at Wabtec?
It's obviously not 24/7!
It's obviously not 24/7!
It doesn't really seem like the rate of production at Wabtec is currently the bottleneck in the introduction process.Does anyone know what the working hours are at Wabtec?
It's obviously not 24/7!
One whole classic set less a power car sitting at the west end of Haymarket depot.
Couldn't agree more!! Only five refurbs have been delivered this year, despite the three extra "classics " usage seems to have gone down. Scotrail has been rarely out of the news this year (not just regarding this though) Doesn't show any signs of improving either, any bets to when all 26 will be delivered AND in service? 2022?!
It would be interesting to know if that is still 43131.
I was passing through Haymarket on Tuesday and noticed that the 1B14 Inverness - Edinburgh was there and delayed for a while with 43131 on the front (south end) and 43137 on the back :
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G83381/2019/09/17/advanced
Presumably it was a problem with 43137 because later in the day, 43131 was parked up at the west end of the depot (facing east) with the rake behind it and it appeared 43137 had been taken off to be 'seen to'. When I passed the following day, 43131 was still parked up with the rake. Now I would have thought there might be a spare power car or two around which could be put on the back, given that so few sets are running. It would beggar belief as to what was happening if 43131 was still parked up two days later with the rake rather than a spare power car being found and the set put back into service.
It doesn't really seem like the rate of production at Wabtec is currently the bottleneck in the introduction process.
Pretty sure it was 43131. As one driver put it - he has never seen Haymarket depot looking like boneyard - coaches and power cars scattered all over the place. They bemoan the fact that LNER power cars seem to have had 'all the upgrades' while the GWR ones look like they were 'run into the ground'.It would be interesting to know if that is still 43131.
I was passing through Haymarket on Tuesday and noticed that the 1B14 Inverness - Edinburgh was there and delayed for a while with 43131 on the front (south end) and 43137 on the back :
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G83381/2019/09/17/advanced
Presumably it was a problem with 43137 because later in the day, 43131 was parked up at the west end of the depot (facing east) with the rake behind it and it appeared 43137 had been taken off to be 'seen to'. When I passed the following day, 43131 was still parked up with the rake. Now I would have thought there might be a spare power car or two around which could be put on the back, given that so few sets are running. It would beggar belief as to what was happening if 43131 was still parked up two days later with the rake rather than a spare power car being found and the set put back into service.
Pretty sure it was 43131. As one driver put it - he has never seen Haymarket depot looking like boneyard - coaches and power cars scattered all over the place. They bemoan the fact that LNER power cars seem to have had 'all the upgrades' while the GWR ones look like they were 'run into the ground'.
To replace the HST's with anything else will take years. From the start of the tendering process to the build scheduling, testing, delivery, more testing, acceptance, driver training to passenger revenue earning service takes years. There can be delays and hic-cups at every stage of the process. Whether it's TPE with their class 67's and MK5 sets, or the Hitachi 80x classes, it would take an absolute age.They will be stuck with the HST’s. Too much money gone in to abandon.
To replace the HST's with anything else will take years. From the start of the tendering process to the build scheduling, testing, delivery, more testing, acceptance, driver training to passenger revenue earning service takes years. There can be delays and hic-cups at every stage of the process. Whether it's TPE with their class 67's and MK5 sets, or the Hitachi 80x classes, it would take an absolute age.
If the ex GWR HST units being provided by the leasing company are so poor, maybe the LNER HST's could be refurbished and made available quicker?
Syeda Ghufran said:We are expecting two per month from October onwards. Wabtec met the most recent date that it promised to meet—the seventh train was delivered on target. Other trains are being refurbished at the facility for other operators. The fact that that process is coming to an end will allow Wabtec to put more coaches through refurbishment and deliver on the promise that it made to deliver more trains to Scotland as soon as possible.
http://www.parliament.scot/parliamentarybusiness/report.aspx?r=12235&i=110545&c=2194568#ScotParlOR
Syeda Ghufran said:We expect all 26 intercity trains to be delivered by the end of June 2020.
http://www.parliament.scot/parliamentarybusiness/report.aspx?r=12235&i=110545&c=2194570#ScotParlOR
The trouble is that ScotRail's contract is with Angel trains and most of the East coast stock is Porterbrook
Had me thinking I'd imagined it too... until I read thisI scrolled back a few pages to see if anyone had posted this, but, unless my eyesight needs checked (and it might!) I didn't see any reference to it…
End of the year. But, the plan is apparently for many of them to transfer to EMR for 12 months as they are more PRM compliant than the current EMR fleet.
Anyone know if Kilmarnock are making much of a dent in the work?
So on a day of low availability, 2 set failures - and substituted by 2-car 158s and 3-car 170s!!1630 Aberdeen to Glasgow HST - 1 power car has failed
Set taken out of service in case the other one fails and blocks the main line. Substituted with a 170.
So there's obviously little confidence in PC reliability right now? Better substitute a DMU just in case the other PC fails.1630 Aberdeen to Glasgow HST - 1 power car has failed
Set taken out of service in case the other one fails and blocks the main line. Substituted with a 170.
The 'feeling' among some staff is that they are 50 yrs old and should be scrapped. When you ask why LNER are able to keep theirs running reliably at 125mph - the blame turns towards depots lack of expertise to maintain them and fix faults ! Today's Inter7city service - probably only 2 to 3 sets running Aberdeen to Edinburgh / Glasgow at most. Definitely the 9.42 Aberdeen to Stirling and Stirling Inverness was also an HST as was the 07.07 Glasgow Inverness. - The saving grace here was that Scotrail managed to maintain the service with 170s and 158s and few cancellations.Does anyone know why the power cars are suddenly failing so much more often than at Great Western? Is it something that the "refurbishment" has done to make them worse?
Does anyone know why the power cars are suddenly failing so much more often than at Great Western? Is it something that the "refurbishment" has done to make them worse?
1630 Aberdeen to Glasgow HST - 1 power car has failed
Set taken out of service in case the other one fails and blocks the main line. Substituted with a 170.