Scottish coal traffic

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  1. high camera

    high camera Member

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-33970594

    Any thoughts on how this news will alter coal imports e.g. will coal still be imported into Scotland with a portion being dragged down the WCML to other power stations ?
     
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  3. jopsuk

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    well that will please people along the line in Stirling and Alloa who've been complaining about the late night coal trains
     
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    Bit of a shame then that upgrades to facilitate coal traffic did not last long term - a cynic might say the same for the Settle and Carlisle , which is quiet now for southbound coal traffic.....however, flows change according to market demands ....(without , dare I say , a penny from the generators concerned) .......
     
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    As far as I know there are no longer any coal trains running along the S & C although of course there are other freight services that continue to run.
     
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    They still run from what I can tell. Also cement, gypsum, timber, ballast, departmental/engineering trains...
     
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    Over and above anything specific to Scotland or the S & C, the bottom has dropped out of the coal market thanks to carbon taxes so coal loadings nationally are well down.
     
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    In all fairness I did state that other freight services continued to run.....
     
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    Was more for the benefit of those who suggested the upgrades were for nothing now the coal traffic has decreased. ;)
     
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    Yes, unfortunately for our railways , there probably won't be any coal power plants other than Drax left operating in about 5 years time for any trains to serve
     
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    Coal traffic has fallen off the cliff edge - look at Didcot - something like 30 trains a day from the Yorkshire / Notts coalfield in the 1980's , replaced by imports from Avonmouth - now not a lump ! Structural changes all right.
     
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    Fiddlers Ferry is good to 2023 apparently (coal and biomass).
    It still takes coal from Hunterston, and sends gypsum to New Biggin on the S&C.
    Rugeley is still going, and takes some coal from Scotland.
     
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    There is a terrible irony here... coal being imported into Britain.
     
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    The last UK deep mine is closing soon, end of the industry:
     
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    I can recall the angst in South Wales when coal was imported into Newport from Australia / around 1978 / for Didcot.

    Little did the NUM know ......
     
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