Scottish Electrification updates & discussion

Discussion in 'Infrastructure & Stations' started by Altnabreac, 27 Sep 2013.

  1. EIKN

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    Thanks guys for your replies to my question.
    All very confusing at first one wonders why they can't just adopt KM and be do e with it .
    Road building Eg the recent A1(m) project t in North England was measured in Km . Crossing from North Eireann back into the republic it's km from miles .
    Railway projects often seen to qoute Km too.
    Isn't it mainly Us and America that still use Miles ? .
     
  2. EIKN

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    Probably why it takes so long to get anything done they keep swapping the minister in charge .
    If your constantly changing them ( no doubt they have their own staff ) like anyone so many weeks / months on the job training and expected to run a railway ( let's not forget LNER started two days ago)
     
  3. gsnedders

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    All the signs and all the documents relating to the track is in miles and chains. When you already have a several week rulebook course if you're doing anything related to the track, is there that gained by converting to kilometres?
     
  4. PaxVobiscum

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    As a daily user of the Milngavie line during the 1960s and much of the 1970s I can state with authority that it was double throughout. Trains passed in the section between Hillfoot and Milngavie.
     
  5. Carntyne

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    It doesn't have any impact.
     
  6. LNW-GW Joint

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    Electrification schemes have been in km since before the ECML electrification (maybe even the WCML Weaver Jn-Glasgow too).
    ETCS signalling is all in km and km/h (as on the Cambrian).
    HS1/2 are all designed in km.
    London Underground is all in km.
    Unfortunately, Messrs Stephenson, Locke, Brunel and friends worked in miles.
    The rule book will have to accommodate both systems for decades yet, but there will be a gradual conversion as lines get upgraded to ETCS.
     
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    Motherwell SC Panels 4 & 5 will be closed late August and transferred to the new Motherwell Workstation at West of Scotland SC. The Shotts line is also getting 3-aspect signalling upgrade as part of the resignalling and the Motherwell controlled portion will be operational in late August and the Edinburgh controlled portion in late September. The resignalling project is also doing the immunisation for the electrification project and providing passenger service turn back signals at Midcalder Junction, Wishaw station and Holytown station
     
  8. IanXC

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    Thanks.
     
  10. Jessicas Dad

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    There wasn't any change before I went on holiday, but I was on the M9 this evening and noticed that there are now masts with all dangly bits, in the right orientation and with the earth wires on coming out from under the bridge heading towards Stirling. The earth wires run a fair bit towards (and may even reach) the overbridge on Gallamuir Road but as I was driving I can't be sure.

    Due to the way the line runs, and the trees next to it, I couldn't see if the line to the South (Larbert) side of the bridge was the same, but I *think* that the earth wires still have a gap in them. Don't qoute me on that though!

    Ross
     
  11. Hackneyite

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    Been on holiday up that way -EG- line area- the past 10 days and I think the Scottish economy is on a winner with the electrification. Class 380- 365-occasional 170!!! All smooth at Glasgow end - apart from ridiculous lack of circulation space at Queen Street! At Edinburgh I did detect slowing (presumably) due to potential clash with Bathgate lines etc, and this might be worse in future with Cumbernauld trains! Anyone care to enlighten me?
     
  12. Hackneyite

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    Err Class 365!
     
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    post on twitter today with pictures of steelwork going up in and around Stirling station.
     
  14. Edinburgh2000

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    Yes, class 365.

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/trans...ase-crush-on-edinburgh-glasgow-line-1-4728667

    "The first of a fleet of stand-in trains has arrived in Scotland to help ease ScotRail’s carriage shortage crisis. It is due to be among ten electric trains as stop-gaps on the main Edinburgh-Glasgow line, where some rush-hour services have lost carriages."

    "ScotRail chief operating officer Angus Thom has told staff: “The class 365 electric trains would boost capacity on the Edinburgh-Glasgow via Falkirk High route, and would mean more seats for our customers during peak times than there were in December. The extra capacity would also mean we are better placed to provide a great service to our customers during major events this summer like The Open and the Edinburgh Festivals. The class 365 trains would provide a temporary solution until we have sufficient class 385 trains in service.”
     
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    There's long been conflicts from Bathgate Jn eastwards (often obviously slowing by Edinburgh Park); the Cumbernauld through trains AFAIK are replacing other trains from Edinburgh to Falkirk Grahamston (though I forget what their destination was?).
     
  16. matchmaker

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    New LED signal (out of use) on the Perth line just before the Causewayhead Road bridge. Plated SN-something.
     
  17. jyte

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    A comment on that scotsman article -

    "its funny ..... network rail took 12 brand (( 4 carriages long)) new trains bound for Scotland and transferred them to London .... and in return we get there old stock which is past its use by date.
    so in short ...... Scotland again is paying for stuff that Westminster wants and takes."

    Is there any truth to that statement?
     
  18. YorkshireBear

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    I don't believe there to be any truth at all. Network rail didnt do anything, no trains destined for Scotland are in London, ScotRail actually got their hands on trains destined for Northern!
     
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    Nothing I can think of unless they're mistaken that anything southbound was units returning to the factory for window mods. Not quite as far as London. In fact not even half way.
    Network Rail taking them? I think not.
    The Scotsman needs taking to task for blatant lying. Where would these 12 4-car trains operate in London anyway? Gospel Oak-Barking?
     
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  20. Southsider

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    It wasn’t the Scotsman, it was one of their readers passing comment.
     
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    Class 365s destined for Northern? AFAIK they were off to storage at Ely.....
     
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    Maybe they are replacing the last 2 (I think) semaphores controlled from Stirling North.
     
  23. Hophead

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    Class 170s went to Southern, with mixed results, though that was a while ago now.
     
  24. YorkshireBear

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    No those particular trains, i was on about something from history.
     
  25. YorkshireBear

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    The problem being in the modern day inflammatory comments like that are liked and then repeated as fact.
     
  26. Journeyman

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    No. Sounds like the aggrieved whining of a hardcore nationalist, who won't let the truth get in the way of an excuse to bash Westminster. The rolling stock shortage is down to Hitachi and the 365 temp solution has been sorted out within the industry. The 170s transferring to Northern were agreed ages ago on the basis of the 385s arriving on time, but there's certainly not been any transfer of anything new down south.
     
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    Yes. Though the point still stands - has anyone actually noticed?
     
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    Press release

    https://www.networkrail.co.uk/feeds/

    Nice view of the temporary footbridge and abutments of the new main bridge.
     

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