SE Driver assessment policy

[Hughqq]

Hi all, I'm not sure if this is known or not so I thought I would share this information.

SE policy for stage 1 and stage 2 trainee train driver assessments is that they MUST be taken and passed on the same day.

I passed with another TOC but on different days and assumed that this was the norm. I've progressed on my SE application and given a start date however that has been placed on hold when they realised the above. They are allowing me to re do the assessments next week in a single day so fingers crossed.

I hope this is useful to others who may be in a similar situation

 

[JohnChuchu]

What if you fail? That is a big risk

 

[Hughqq]

It is a massive risk as I've handed my notice in at work having had confirmation of start date. It appears I have no choice but to go for it, I live too far away from other TOC depots to even be considered so its all or nothing

What if you fail? That is a big risk

 

[scott118]

It is a massive risk as I've handed my notice in at work having had confirmation of start date. It appears I have no choice but to go for it, I live too far away from other TOC depots to even be considered so its all or nothing

yikes - good luck..

 

[Economist]

It all sounds a bit odd if I'm to be honest, OP you did check this with multiple sources in HR didn't you? I have heard of situations where one person has said one thing and another person something totally different.

The company has offered you a contract and you have handed your notice in, since the mistake would appear to be at their end, surely they should honour their word. The only exception I could think of would be something medical where the law would prevent them from offering you the role.

I seem to recall someone mentioning on here a case at a different company where someone signed a contract having never sat the MMI. The company got him to sit it and he subsequently failed. He then went to his union, they kicked up a fuss and he got in. You've passed all of your assessments, so you should have a stronger case.

 

[332 > 444]

Eh? I took stage 1 one week and Stage 2 the next but I passed. You have to pass the first stage that day to get to the 2nd stage. I did this with GTR (FCC style) very strange, it's like they want to pay to send you when you have clearly passed ??????

 

[greatkingrat]

It does sound odd. Splitting the tests in two parts seems to be the norm nationally, to do the entire process in one day must be a pretty long day.

 

[ComUtoR]

to do the entire process in one day must be a pretty long day.

Its how I did it. It was a loooooong day.

 

[Hughqq]

It is company policy I'm told and there is no way around it.

I'm not in the railway now so there is no recourse to a union either.

I just hope this post helps someone else avoid a similar situation

It all sounds a bit odd if I'm to be honest, OP you did check this with multiple sources in HR didn't you? I have heard of situations where one person has said one thing and another person something totally different.

The company has offered you a contract and you have handed your notice in, since the mistake would appear to be at their end, surely they should honour their word. The only exception I could think of would be something medical where the law would prevent them from offering you the role.

I seem to recall someone mentioning on here a case at a different company where someone signed a contract having never sat the MMI. The company got him to sit it and he subsequently failed. He then went to his union, they kicked up a fuss and he got in. You've passed all of your assessments, so you should have a stronger case.

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yikes - good luck..

Cheers
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Eh? I took stage 1 one week and Stage 2 the next but I passed. You have to pass the first stage that day to get to the 2nd stage. I did this with GTR (FCC style) very strange, it's like they want to pay to send you when you have clearly passed ��

SE do their testing in house and appear to have no need to send people to the OPC, hence they run their sessions in one day and will not accept it any other way

 

[MartinB1]

Good luck, Pls let us know how you get on.

 

[Hughqq]

Good luck, Pls let us know how you get on.

Thank you, will do

 

[MEN1969]

For info I had passed everything with GTR test wise and SE contacted me and accepted that but I had to go and do the MMI with them which I got through ok. Don't know if that is similar to you Hugh, gutted for you but I am sure you will pass with no problem at all.

 

[Hughqq]

For info I had passed everything with GTR test wise and SE contacted me and accepted that but I had to go and do the MMI with them which I got through ok. Don't know if that is similar to you Hugh, gutted for you but I am sure you will pass with no problem at all.

Cheers Mike, could you please check with SE on Tuesday that they have accepted your stage 1 and 2 on separate days and that they do not require you to take them again in a single day with them. If that turns out to be the case I can then challenge them on the decision.

 

[Economist]

Best of luck with it OP, I'd have a good read of the contract they sent you as well.

Don't know what others think but it might be worth a polite email to someone fairly senior in HR asking them for an opinion, keep it nice with them though at this point. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Hughqq]

Thanks, I think that's a great idea

Best of luck with it OP, I'd have a good read of the contract they sent you as well.

Don't know what others think but it might be worth a polite email to someone fairly senior in HR asking them for an opinion, keep it nice with them though at this point. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Bert and Ernie]

Definitely get confirmation off HR, speak to whoever is in charge weather it is the HR director or HR manager, just push it a little further as I can see no reason why doing it in one day or over two makes any difference what so ever

 

[Hughqq]

Hi all, thank you for your comments and support.

I have been through the tests again and just been told that I have passed!

Soooooo excited and can't wait to start ??????

 

[mresh91]

Congratulations. How did you find it doing all pen/paper tests as well as computer tests all in one day? Like you, I have my passes over two days.. so I guess if I get lucky in the near future, I could find myself in the same predicament some day... (fingers crossed! )

 

[Hughqq]

TBH I found it better as it reduces the waiting round time between tests and I prefer that

Congratulations. How did you find it doing all pen/paper tests as well as computer tests all in one day? Like you, I have my passes over two days.. so I guess if I get lucky in the near future, I could find myself in the same predicament some day... (fingers crossed! )

 

[ComUtoR]

How may started the day and how many finished it ? Was the MMI still the last thing done on the day ? Do you have a DMI still to do ?

Cheers in advance.

 

[Hughqq]

Hi, I was the only one on the day and it was just the tests as they were happy to accept my MMI from GTR, but it would have been at the end.

DMI and medical complete, start October 10th

How may started the day and how many finished it ? Was the MMI still the last thing done on the day ? Do you have a DMI still to do ?

Cheers in advance.

 

[ComUtoR]

Many thanks and Welcome to the place we call home

 

[Economist]

Congrats on getting through it, must have nerves of steel!

 

[Hughqq]

Thanks, my wife is a hypno therapist and that really helped with the nerves

Congrats on getting through it, must have nerves of steel!

 

[Newster05]

So what was the problem? Why did you have to do the tests again? I did the two sets of tests on different days? This didn't seem to be a problem - did biometrics with GTR then SE called me for MMI and I did the 5 computer questions half an hour before the MMI. There was no mention from SE that I'd ever have to do any tests again (as hadn't done on same day). Was just told I'll be looking at early next year for a DMI. Well done for passing twice! I thought that would have been a waste of everyone's time and money getting you to pass nationwide accredited tests you'd already passed. Enjoy October - fingers crossed I'm just behind you! Good luck with the training.

 

[Hughqq]

I think it was because I initially failed the MMI meaning that they were all done over three days. Thanks for the well done and good luck for your DMI

So what was the problem? Why did you have to do the tests again? I did the two sets of tests on different days? This didn't seem to be a problem - did biometrics with GTR then SE called me for MMI and I did the 5 computer questions half an hour before the MMI. There was no mention from SE that I'd ever have to do any tests again (as hadn't done on same day). Was just told I'll be looking at early next year for a DMI. Well done for passing twice! I thought that would have been a waste of everyone's time and money getting you to pass nationwide accredited tests you'd already passed. Enjoy October - fingers crossed I'm just behind you! Good luck with the training.