seasoned drivers.... clear something up please

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    And I asked you, given that we were discussing going DOO back in BR days - though I didnt make it clear if I must admit

    Nothing about todays mess rooms.
     
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    We've never been offered DOO-P. It was blocked or killed off before it was even born, with the threat of strike action.

    DOO-P isn't likely to happen either as it's known that passengers prefer the presence of a guard on board than to be single manned. Our trains have been modified now so there are no door controls in the cabs, only in the vestibules, all monitors & mirrors were removed with the odd exception. And I don't think you'll find many takers now for DOO-P considering the clientèle we have to put up with on certain routes.
     
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    I will be on about 56k this year and will hardly pay any tax at 40% as I put the max into my pension with AVC's
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    This highest risk of incident is from 18months to 5 years, complacency is the biggest demon.
     
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    ok fair enough like I said earlier maybe a hazard of the trade when recruiting drivers/guards/staff off the street with no railway experience........but at least that inexperience/naivety can be their excuse!

    what is the excuse of the older hands who have sold out for some of the poor conditions that may be in place today?..........or is this where all that seniority rubbish comes in where the more senior you are it doesn't matter what you do it shouldn't be questioned because of the years you have put in??
     
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    On a related topic, can anyone confirm that newly qualified drivers are paid on a tiered wage structure to the seasoned guys or does it depend on the TOC?

    Anyone shed any light on approx what the basic starting salary is for new drivers ? FYI, I know this varies depending on TOC's, just after an idea.

    Thanks in advance
     
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    Depends on the TOC. Mine pays the full rate from the day you pass out.

    Up-to-date rates for each TOC is available here:

    http://www.aslef.org.uk/information/102222/102225/companies/

    But as others have said, it's not all about the money; some TOCs have better conditions than others.
     
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    What surprises me here is the difference in what TOC'S pay? I would of thought that for instance a driver who works in London as DOO would get paid more than say a first trans express driver
    More hassle, worse turns, more risks as a DOO London driver and a twice as much in living costs
    As a newbie it is interesting to see opinions, but my thought is a long the line of that in today's world most people i think look at the pay packet first as it is so expensive now to have a decent lifestyle, you want the best you can for you and yours and then the love of the job comes second, i know this is probably opposite to the thought of the old skool drivers who have been in the industry for 10/15 + years
     
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    Thanks for the response boys (and the link). I was just a bit confused as a previous poster mentioned about their being a tiered salary structure. Perhaps there is at some TOC's.
     
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    Here are Southerns full rates.
     

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    Thanks Sarah. As Southern is part of the Govia franchise, I imagine the rates will be similar to other member TOC's.
     
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    Not really look at the difference between XC, ATW, LOROL, Chiltern and Tyne and Wear, they are all DB but have a huge differential with their salaries.
     
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