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  1. Merseysider

    Merseysider Established Member Fares Advisor

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    Following a request by forum staff, I have begun creating seating plans in greater detail than those typically available online. The priority will be reservable services, with non-reservable to follow. The plans will show the location of plug sockets, seats with window view, toilets, luggage areas, and so on.

    Moreover, the plans will be consistent and all in one place.

    Please note that, for the time being, you will need Excel on a computer to view the seating plans optimally. This is an ongoing project and further information will follow about units that require cross-checking.
     

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  3. gazthomas

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    Nice initiative, why not save/print as JPG or PDF then everyone can see your good work?
     
  4. Merseysider

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    That's a good idea - I'll do that shortly :)
     
  5. Bletchleyite

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    Looks good.

    A suggestion for potential improvement, if feasible (probably not using Excel) - the actual window layouts? Some might want to choose more specifically, e.g. to be able to look forwards out of a window.
     
  6. Merseysider

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    Thanks. :) That's a good suggestion and certainly something that can be looked at - it should be possible once the files are converted to JPEG.
     
  7. Bletchleyite

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    Cool. Never understood why so many online seat selectors (e.g. airlines) miss that information. On a plane, once you've got past picking a seat at the front, exit row etc, the window positions are often the only thing differentiating the different rows beyond selecting window, middle or aisle.
     
  8. Merseysider

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    Yep, I agree. More than once I've reserved a supposed window seat on VT only to find I get about an inch of glass and ten inches of white train interior <(
     
  9. Peter Mugridge

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    Could this be perhaps done by showing the window layout as a side on diagram laid against the vertical plan in much the same way as for a cardboard cut out model?

    One could then see at a glance the exact relationship between the seats and the windows, including exactly where the seat back would be in relation to the pillar.


    PS That file link won't open; I can read .xls but not .xlsx files...
     
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    Peter - yes, that would be good.
     
  11. Bigfoot

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    Opens just fine in Google sheet on mobile too.
     
  12. Merseysider

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    Really? Which phone was that? On my iPhone, I get a mangled mess...
     

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    Using the Google sheet app over Web browser.
     
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    Wow, hands full then! I'm rather afraid you'll come unstuck with most of FGW/GWR's reservable services though; the formation of HST sets and 158/9 units is pretty erratic and changes frequently.

    Cool project though!
     
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    It's a cool project, good luck with it!

    Minor correction: there's no cycle space in coach C of a 185.
     
  16. Merseysider

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    Thanks!

    Officially, no, there's no cycle space in coach C. But there is space for a cycle ;)
     
  17. westv

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    This all sounds an excellent project. Maybe somone will come along with a seating plan for my VTEC Hull service.
     
  18. Merseysider

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    VTEC units are a fairly high priority, after non-London EMTs (eg 158, for which only very basic seating plans are available online) and services local to me (which will be simple to cross-check).

    Once I next get the chance to head over to the North East, possibly on a rover, VTEC, GC and HT plans will commence. :)
     
  19. headshot119

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    I'm sure we started a project like this a few years back, but it fizzled out quite quickly. Hopefully you can give it some momentum.

    A little contribution from me.

    ATW Class 175 seating plans.
     

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    Back in the early 1990's I worked for BR Business Systems supporting CRS the seat reservation system. Using the technology of the time (paper and Multimate!) I produced for the travel trade a folder showing typical train formations and seating layouts such as Mk3 or Mk4 for WCML, ECML and HST sets plus we did Mk2,s for cross -country etc.
    Be interesting to know if anyone out there has acquired one of these.
     
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    I will be interested to see the plans for a CrossCountry Voyager when they're done. Recently I booked a ticket on one from Manc-Oxford and was careful to select a seat that the seating plan said had a window view (Coach C Seat 05A). When I boarded the train however, I found that the only view was of a metal pillar. I complained to CrossCountry, but got a poor quality reply, meaning they're still displaying their seating plan with the wrong information.
     
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    I`ve done the same and found that too.
     
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    I`ve noticed this before with XC. On some seats it says window view and there is virtually none and on others a good window viewing space but marked down as "limited or no view."
     
  24. gazthomas

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    Is this project still progressing?
     
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    Does anyone think this entire project could be made into an app / separate website? It’s a genuinely good idea, and similar to Trip Advisors ‘seat guru’
     
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    It's something I'd like to see happening, don't have much experience with development but I'd help collectunc data.
     
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    Is anyone able to produce a seat plan for the LNR class 350/1 or /3s?

    Can find a TPE 350/4 seat plan on their website. But there are some noticeable differences. First class is larger and priority seats are in different locations.

    An amended version of the TPE plan would be good?
     
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    Any takers for making 350/1 or 350/3 plan please???:rolleyes::oops:
     
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    I've got a trip booked on a tpe Manchester to Scotland later today and was going to give it a go if it's a 350 - don't know exactly what type they operate though and no promises.

    EDIT: Seating plan won't be happening
     
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  30. pt_mad

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    That's a 350/4 you see. And TPE have one online for theirs.

    It's the LNR (2+2) seated version that's of interest. As it's different from the TPE 350s.

    And LNR or LM havn't ever done one AFAIK:p
     
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    Ahh sorry it won't be from me - rarley venture that far south. Didn't know tpe had some online - doesn't really seem much point duplicating them. I'll see how busy the train is and how board I am.
     

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