Shapes on my Ticket

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  1. tomtrainspots

    tomtrainspots Member

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    Hello all-

    After looking through my ticket collection, I noticed that many of my train tickets had a small circle or diamond on the top of them. Naturally, i did some googling but to my bewilderment I couldn't find any information regarding my query.

    Below I have attached links to 2 images containing tickets with the unexplained shapes printed upon them:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0p02aligu5cben8/Photo 13-02-2020, 20 47 43.jpg?dl=0

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/2umh7i0rpmthkty/Photo 13-02-2020, 20 42 02.jpg?dl=0

    I have all confidence that someone, somewhere knows what these shapes correspond to (if anything at all) and I hope my restless mind can be settled :)

    - Thomas
     
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  3. jnjkerbin

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    I believe the circle corresponds to a railcard discounted ticket and the diamond to a child rate fare - just a way to make it more conspicuous to staff checking tickets.
     
  4. tomtrainspots

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    Ah ok, makes sense really. Guess if people were on a crowded train, a guard could in theory skim-read tickets quicker and know instantly when a discounted ticket is being used. Thanks for your help :)

    (I was hoping the reason be more interesting, and I'd start a cult of the ticket shapes. We'd make a pyramid scheme and conjure up many conspiracy theories. I'm disappointed. I will be filing a formal complaint to the ticket gods.)
     
  5. YorkC

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    AIUI, the circle is printed on all discounted tickets whether railcard or not - e.g. LNER Blue Light Card (34% off) tickets print with the circle but state "adult standard class" with no mention of the source of the discount.
     
  6. setdown

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    On some tickets, the black circle is replaced with a "D", which I suppose is more obvious to its intention.
     
  7. Saperstein

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    Or “DSB” on tickets issued from older machines.

    But this probably shows a Disabled Rail Card discount is in use, not sure what other types of Railcard show on said tickets.

    Saperstein.
     
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    Found a couple of examples:

    AD5E1D70-A8B5-4DEF-8D01-CEEBEBB9E443.jpeg ED6B4BC8-BB32-40CA-9D93-F91E9D03C0AF.jpeg


    “DSB” on the Seaford ticket evidently plays a similar roll to “D” on newer ticket stock, or indeed the circle which is the observation by the OP that started this thread.

    “NSE” on the London tickets I believe means Network Railcard.

    Saperstein.
     
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  9. yorkie

    yorkie Forum Staff Staff Member Administrator

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    That's right. The LNER tickets I use are like this.
     
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    That's a promo discount so no need to reference why.
     
  11. AlbertBeale

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    Railcard-discounted tickets I bought just recently had the circle/blob on them, and I wondered what it meant (and had intended to ask someone on here). I'm virtually certain I've never had the blob on discounted tickets in the past... Maybe it's a fairly new thing.
     
  12. yorkie

    yorkie Forum Staff Staff Member Administrator

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    The new style tickets have been around for years but some TOCs were slow to take this up and even now some still use the old style!

    Edit: 6 years ago:
    GTR revenue protection officers confiscated tickets issued on the new style. GTR settled the matter out of court and paid a four figure sum.

    To put it into context, Year 6 primary school students back then are now at college!

    Yet some things never change.
     
  13. LNW-GW Joint

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    I had my ticket clipped by a TfW conductor this week, and it left a steam-engine-shaped hole in it.
    Does that have any mysterious significance? ;)
     
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    Old style tickets have SNR printed when issued with a Senior Rail Card. I think I have also seen the 'D' and the solid circle on new style tickets.
     
  15. Wallsendmag

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    The D and indeed C are for printers that don't have the ability to print the circle/diamond.
     

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