I have to say that while transport in London is very good it’s also very cheap with an Oyster, and lots of people go free. There is no reason why 60 year olds should travel for free.
I have to say that while transport in London is very good it’s also very cheap with an Oyster, and lots of people go free. There is no reason why 60 year olds should travel for free.
I’d agree. They can have their free bus travel like the rest of the country gets, but I can’t see why all public transport should be free for them.I have to say that while transport in London is very good it’s also very cheap with an Oyster, and lots of people go free. There is no reason why 60 year olds should travel for free.
Not really, as that's what devolution is all about. After all residents of Wales and Scotland have benefits that residents in England don'tI’d agree. They can have their free bus travel like the rest of the country gets, but I can’t see why all public transport should be free for them.
It feels a bit like a kick in the teeth for over-60s to get free travel, when fares are already lower than the rest of the UK.
People in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.Does anybody outside London get free travel when they pass 60?
One to encourage families to use public transport rather than drive and two if young people get used to travelling on public transport they are likely to continue to do so. Free travel only applies to buses - over 10 year olds have to pay for underground and rail.I take exception to under-16s having free travel in London. I am happy for travel to and from school to be free, but why should all travel be free?
It would be political suicide to do away with it but £20 for seven years free travel is crazy. At a minimum charge the same as a senior railcard and renew annually.Let's get this straight - it's nothing to do with Freedom Pass age, which begins at the same time as the ENCTS. It was a political move by a London Mayor to court popularity with the early 60s age group, and, for a one-off fee of £20(?) extends the benefit of the FP to those people. It should never have happened imo and should be scrapped for new entrants: finishing it altogether, given the fee paid, would be more problematic, and cause more trouble than it's worth.
Oh is that right? Interesting. I’m in favour of it in theory, but if we’re bailing TFL out I don’t want to be paying for my rich brother in law to zap about in the tube for free every day! It really is a great service and I wish other cities had something comparable.One to encourage families to use public transport rather than drive and two if young people get used to travelling on public transport they are likely to continue to do so. Free travel only applies to buses - over 10 year olds have to pay for underground and rail.
In relation to OP's original question I thought its the London Boroughs that pay for the free travel so cost to TfL of providing it is effectively zero.
I was meaning between 60 and state pension age. Lot of fit rich folk travelling around free.Are you meaning all over 60, or between 60 and their state pension age?
Merseyside has a reduced concessionary pass for this purpose offering only bus travel (the normal concessionary pass is buses, trains and ferries)Does anybody outside London get free travel when they pass 60?
I never had any free travel to and from school, the cost of it was quite significant too. I always thought that was wrong then and still do now.I take exception to under-16s having free travel in London. I am happy for travel to and from school to be free, but why should all travel be free?
all extra concessions are paid for by council tax paid by the people in the area covered by the extra concession so a local thing with only a small amount off overlap to adjoining councils ??I raised it because not only is public transport in London so much better than elsewhere, it’s cheaper and free if you’re 60. I’m not into the politics of envy and would rather other places were levelled up.
I take exception to under-16s having free travel in London. I am happy for travel to and from school to be free, but why should all travel be free?
Under 16s don't really have any source of income. Over 60's are either still working and/or have a pension.
But in London is it not all travel as opposed to just bus travel?People in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Apply for an older person's bus pass
Some older people can get free travel on local buses - contact your council to check your eligibility and apply for a bus passwww.gov.uk
To be pedantic you do have to pay a nominal fee for the 60+ card.I raised it because not only is public transport in London so much better than elsewhere, it’s cheaper and free if you’re 60. I’m not into the politics of envy and would rather other places were levelled up.
Not sure I've ever thought of travel in London as 'cheap'; well over £11 for an off-peak one-day travelcard - and don't even think about the peak rate...