There has been heated debate from members of my local forum about the axing of the Southern Inner SLL service from December which serves Victoria and London Bridge via Peckham Rye.
It's polarised passengers who use Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill stations who some are looking forward to the ELL London Overground extension to Clapham Junction and borderline troll like behaviour to anyone who doesn't agree with the changes.
Advantages to the ELL extension are a more regular service and capacity, 4tph compared to Southern's 2tph. The trains will be the standard LOROL 378 4 car longitude compared to Southern's 2 car 456's, TfL fares for local journeys, more connections with Tube, DLR and other LO/NR services and staffing at Clapham High Street and Wandsworth Road, which to be fair have been maintained to the minimum currently.
The much publicised disadvantages include a lack of direct Victoria services from Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill which include no Sunday service and no London Bridge service at all from stations west of Peckham Rye and a reduction of direct LB services from Peckham Rye and Queens Road Peckham from 6tph to 4tph.
I believe the connections that the ELL will give outweigh the disadvantages, especially to the smaller stations on the line and with Thameslink serving Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill once the upgrade is complete, this will lessen the need for the Inner SLL as if one local rail user group is planning to campaign for it's reinstatement from 2019. There's also the chance that TfL will gain Southeastern's metro routes which would lead to additional late and Sunday services on the Dartford to Victoria line which will add more capacity to Victoria.
When the ELL was extended to the Sydenham line, it was broadly welcomed by rail user and community groups, yet in Southwark, they want Southern or nothing.
It's polarised passengers who use Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill stations who some are looking forward to the ELL London Overground extension to Clapham Junction and borderline troll like behaviour to anyone who doesn't agree with the changes.
Advantages to the ELL extension are a more regular service and capacity, 4tph compared to Southern's 2tph. The trains will be the standard LOROL 378 4 car longitude compared to Southern's 2 car 456's, TfL fares for local journeys, more connections with Tube, DLR and other LO/NR services and staffing at Clapham High Street and Wandsworth Road, which to be fair have been maintained to the minimum currently.
The much publicised disadvantages include a lack of direct Victoria services from Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill which include no Sunday service and no London Bridge service at all from stations west of Peckham Rye and a reduction of direct LB services from Peckham Rye and Queens Road Peckham from 6tph to 4tph.
I believe the connections that the ELL will give outweigh the disadvantages, especially to the smaller stations on the line and with Thameslink serving Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill once the upgrade is complete, this will lessen the need for the Inner SLL as if one local rail user group is planning to campaign for it's reinstatement from 2019. There's also the chance that TfL will gain Southeastern's metro routes which would lead to additional late and Sunday services on the Dartford to Victoria line which will add more capacity to Victoria.
When the ELL was extended to the Sydenham line, it was broadly welcomed by rail user and community groups, yet in Southwark, they want Southern or nothing.