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Should time restricted fares be abolished?

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35B

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Leaving aside who wins and who loses from a change in the fares structure, revenue neutral or otherwise, the issue is that there are strong incentives and few restrictions on TOCs seeking to increase revenue. Public policy is little guide, other than politicians grandstanding, and operators wanting to smooth the profile have to work hard to persuade their DfT masters to allow changes to the restrictions.

Underneath all that, though, is that the regulated fares have risen massively as compound rises have bitten, but operators have found themselves selling more and more tickets at significant discounts to get people to travel. That goes beyond just marginal pricing issues, and cuts to the heart of an understanding of what the market will bear on rail.

That, in turn, raises big questions about the cost of the railways given the level of subsidy in the system and the low margins earned by TOCs.
 
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Everyone knows trains are busy in the "rush hour" and nobody with any sense is going to choose to travel then unless they have to, regardless of the fares.
I wish that were true. There are many people who choose to travel when they know the trains are extremely busy and then complain about the overcrowding.
 

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I wish that were true. There are many people who choose to travel when they know the trains are extremely busy and then complain about the overcrowding.

Not that surprising.
If you are done at 5 do you cram onto a train and get home at 6, or waste time for a couple of hours (probably spending money) to then get home at 8? Unless you really don’t have anything to do at home then you do the former.
In the morning you either have to get up very early and then fill time in a half empty city, or you lose most of the morning.
 
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