Sleeper fitted multiple units

[Thechopperguy]

Curiosity leads me to post this - we've got the Caledonian & Night Riviera sleepers, hauled by a 92 & 57 respectively. With the various TOC's in this country going away from LHCS, I wondered if there's anywhere that uses an EMU /DMU/Bimode or trimode MU for sleeper services?

 

[Roast Veg]

Curiosity leads me to post this - we've got the Caledonian & Night Riviera sleepers, hauled by a 92 & 57 respectively. With the various TOC's in this country going away from LHCS, I wondered if there's anywhere that uses an EMU /DMU/Bimode or trimode MU for sleeper services?

Internationally, yes. The last remaining sleeper in Japan is the Sunrise Express, which runs using a small fleet of dedicated EMUs.

 

[dazzler]

China has the CRH1E high speed EMU sleeping car trains.

Japan has the 3' 6" gauge Sunrise Express, which runs from Tokyo to Izumoshi and Okayama, splitting en-route at Okayama, joining at Takamatsu on the return journey.

Norway's state railway has ordered some FLIRT trains for long distance operation, both EMU and EDMU, some will have sleeping cabins.

When developing the new trains, Stadler placed great emphasis on travel comfort – for both day and night journeys. The FLIRT Nordic Express trains offer seats that are adjustable on both sides, flexible sleeping compartments, bistro and family areas, and ample space for luggage. Passengers can choose between reclining sleeper seats and sleeping compartments with two or four beds. During the day, the sleeping compartments can be converted into private seating areas for families and business travellers alike. The reclining seats can be used both during the day and at night.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

we've got the Caledonian & Night Riviera sleepers, hauled by a 92 & 57 respectively.

Worth noting that Caledonian sleeper don't only use 92s, getting them to the Highlands wouldn't be easy. GBRf 66s are used on the Inverness portion, with 73s assisting the 66s to Inverness and alone to Fort William/Aberdeen.

 

[Thechopperguy]

Worth noting that Caledonian sleeper don't only use 92s, getting them to the Highlands wouldn't be easy. GBRf 66s are used on the Inverness portion, with 73s assisting the 66s to Inverness and alone to Fort William/Aberdeen.

I take your point, but I was only thinking of the main services not the feeders

 

[GatwickDepress]

In 2023, Indian Railways contracted Alstom to build 100 sleeper variants of the popular Vande Bharat EMUs, formerly known as Train-20. Prototype has been built, but it's not expected to enter service until the end of the year or beginning of 2025.

 

[co-tr-paul]

JFI, the Night Riviera stock is safe until 2028 when decision will be made about refurbishment or replacement.
But would you want to sleep on top an engine ?

 

[D6975]

JFI, the Night Riviera stock is safe until 2028 when decision will be made about refurbishment or replacement.
But would you want to sleep on top an engine ?

Surely you would put the engines under the seating coaches and the lounge/catering vehicle.

 

[driverd]

JFI, the Night Riviera stock is safe until 2028 when decision will be made about refurbishment or replacement.
But would you want to sleep on top an engine ?

Provided it's not something as intrusive as a 185, I'd find the continous hum of the engine soothing, helping to drown out the squeaks and squeals of suspension/doors etc. Much like the air con units do currently.

The main issue would be ensuring you suppress vibrations sufficiently, in my eyes.

 

[Doomotron]

Surely you would put the engines under the seating coaches and the lounge/catering vehicle.

That would mean there would be too many trailer coaches and there would be pretty poor performance as a result. I also wouldn't want an engine in a seating coach which is already going to be hard to sleep in.

 

[Scotrail84]

Not entirely related to the topic but CS should have made every guards van on the MK5 coaches a DBSO style vehicle with gangway connections to enable them to be marshalled in the middle of rakes when coupling at Edinburgh and Cartsairs etc.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Worth noting that Caledonian sleeper don't only use 92s, getting them to the Highlands wouldn't be easy. GBRf 66s are used on the Inverness portion, with 73s assisting the 66s to Inverness and alone to Fort William/Aberdeen.

The original plan had been to use two 73s on the Inverness.

66s have been seen on the Fort William portion.

 

[Falcon1200]

Should there ever be a Sleeping Car EMU, one would hope the roof-mounted circuit breaker is not above someone's bedroom.....

 

[norbitonflyer]

Curiosity leads me to post this - we've got the Caledonian & Night Riviera sleepers, hauled by a 92 & 57 respectively. With the various TOC's in this country going away from LHCS, I wondered if there's anywhere that uses an EMU /DMU/Bimode or trimode MU for sleeper services?

Interesting article from 2012 linked to on another thread, suggesting exactly that
https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/27800/mugridge-peter.pdf

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Interesting article from 2012 linked to on another thread, suggesting exactly that
https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/27800/mugridge-peter.pdf

Thank you - and you wouldn't believe how many people, some of them fairly senior, have told me they wished the Scottish Government had gone with a version of my suggestion...

 

[gordonthemoron]

Does the XPT count? One sleeping car to Melbourne and another to Brisbane/Casino. Plus Queensland has the Spirit of Queensland between Brisbane and Cairns

 

[12LDA28C]

Worth noting that Caledonian sleeper don't only use 92s, getting them to the Highlands wouldn't be easy. GBRf 66s are used on the Inverness portion, with 73s assisting the 66s to Inverness and alone to Fort William/Aberdeen.

Not quite - 73s are the train locos used as they provide ETS for on-board systems and they are assisted by the 66, not the other way round.

 

[StephenHunter]

Curiosity leads me to post this - we've got the Caledonian & Night Riviera sleepers, hauled by a 92 & 57 respectively. With the various TOC's in this country going away from LHCS, I wondered if there's anywhere that uses an EMU /DMU/Bimode or trimode MU for sleeper services?

Iraq has some relatively new Chinese DMUs operating a Baghdad-Basra sleeper.