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"Smart" fare dodgers - even smarter guard !

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I was travelling from Dover to Rochester on Wed afternoon. Train stops at little rural stop; young couple pass my seat at a brisk trot (presumably having just got on), bulldozing little old lady out of the way. Couple both go into toilet.
Couple of minutes later guard appears, checks little old lady's ticket, passes into next coach. Two minutes later guard returns, opens door control panel by set of doors nearest to toilet - retires behind toilet, almost in gangway to next coach.
Train rolls to a stop at next station. Toilet door opens, young man hurries out (followed by young woman) stabs door opening button, stabs again ...............
guard appears behind them with a cheery "tickets please !" Doesn't unlock doors until he has money in hand - as the couple finally head off down the platform he calls after them:- "DON'T do that again !"

Beautifully executed !!!!

Guard was an imposing looking character: looked like the RSM from "Zulu" (different uniform though !) - complete with set of mutton chop whiskers.
 
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I've announced Reading when I've known we were going to be stopped short of the platform before now, then walked back down to stand beside the toilet that I guessed someone was hiding in, for them to open the door when we stopped -
"Can I see you ticket, please?"
"I'm just getting off"
"No, we're not at the station yet, you have plenty of time to show me - Oh dear, do you need to buy one?" <D
 
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I hope they managed to get some quality nookie in for their troubles :lol:<D
 
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moonrakerz said:
Couple of minutes later guard appears, checks little old lady's ticket, passes into next coach. Two minutes later guard returns, opens door control panel by set of doors nearest to toilet - retires behind toilet, almost in gangway to next coach.
Train rolls to a stop at next station. Toilet door opens, young man hurries out (followed by young woman) stabs door opening button, stabs again
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A Northern guard did exactly the same thing to a boy and girl (in school uniform) who hide in the toilets. He also told them that they were breaking the law by going in to same toilet at the same time. He went on to tell them he could call the police but on this occasion would report the incident to the school's headteacher.

If you ever genuinely go the toilet just before a ticket inspection it's sometimes quite amusing to see the guard's face when you show him/her that you have a valid ticket.
 
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These people got what they deserved! I've got to say that I'd be a bit suspicious myself if two people entered into the same toilet! :lol:

These naughty people are also occupying toilets that fare paying passengers may want to use. It's absolutely despicable behaviour!
 
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All Line Rover said:
These people got what they deserved! I've got to say that I'd be a bit suspicious myself if two people entered into the same toilet! :lol:

These naughty people are also occupying toilets that fare paying passengers may want to use. It's absolutely despicable behaviour!
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[Michael O'Leary Hat] Maybe they can be charged a toilet supplement on top of their fares, perhaps £1? :lol: [/Michael O'Leary Hat]
 
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Train toilet doors should be set to open automatically after a set time, e.g. five minutes. Should be long enough for most things that people need to do in there.

Would stop people hogging the toilets just for somewhere to sit (amazingly some people don't see the yuk factor in that) when there are no seats available elsewhere.
 
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In a desperate attempt to get this thread back on course, well done to the member of staff ivolved - too many either are totally oblivious or just seem not to care unfortunately.
 
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island said:
The OP's people should have been prosecuted, or at least PFed <(
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I agree that prosecution should be the correct course. However intent might be difficult to prove though. How can we prove beyond reasonable doubt that they did not have a genuine need for the bog? Do on-train facilities have CCTVs in them?

Penalty Fare, if appropriate, is no more than they deserve.
 
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Flamingo said:
I've announced Reading when I've known we were going to be stopped short of the platform before now, then walked back down to stand beside the toilet that I guessed someone was hiding in, for them to open the door when we stopped -
"Can I see you ticket, please?"
"I'm just getting off"
"No, we're not at the station yet, you have plenty of time to show me - Oh dear, do you need to buy one?" <D
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hahaha I would love to ride on one of your trains and watch you in action.
 
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trainophile said:
Train toilet doors should be set to open automatically after a set time, e.g. five minutes. Should be long enough for most things that people need to do in there.

Would stop people hogging the toilets just for somewhere to sit (amazingly some people don't see the yuk factor in that) when there are no seats available elsewhere.
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Obviously toilets should be vacated as soon as possible and used only for the purposes intended. But are there any actual regulations about what can (and cannot) be done in a train toilet?

Does anyone take a portable stool (for example a camping or fishing stool) for use when there are no seats available?
 
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Stool... hehe

I have traveled once and needed to go into a toilet with someone else, and spend a reasonable amount of time in there....

As a care escort before all you dirty minded people think I do disgusting things in train toilets, needless to say I got some funny looks on that 185...
 
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jcollins said:
A Northern guard did exactly the same thing to a boy and girl (in school uniform) who hide in the toilets. He also told them that they were breaking the law by going in to same toilet at the same time. He went on to tell them he could call the police but on this occasion would report the incident to the school's headteacher.

If you ever genuinely go the toilet just before a ticket inspection it's sometimes quite amusing to see the guard's face when you show him/her that you have a valid ticket.
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They were breaking the law for going in the toilet together?? What seriously, that is against the LAW?? Maybe its different on Northern.
 
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Or how about 2 women going into the same toilet together, same effect as 2 men going into the same toilet together - not right.

Unless one happened to be a carer for the other of course.
 
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moonrakerz said:
I was travelling from Dover to Rochester on Wed afternoon. Train stops at little rural stop; young couple pass my seat at a brisk trot (presumably having just got on), bulldozing little old lady out of the way. Couple both go into toilet.
Couple of minutes later guard appears, checks little old lady's ticket, passes into next coach. Two minutes later guard returns, opens door control panel by set of doors nearest to toilet - retires behind toilet, almost in gangway to next coach.
Train rolls to a stop at next station. Toilet door opens, young man hurries out (followed by young woman) stabs door opening button, stabs again ...............
guard appears behind them with a cheery "tickets please !" Doesn't unlock doors until he has money in hand - as the couple finally head off down the platform he calls after them:- "DON'T do that again !"

Beautifully executed !!!!

Guard was an imposing looking character: looked like the RSM from "Zulu" (different uniform though !) - complete with set of mutton chop whiskers.
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Its shocking in Kent isnt it.. even with the new barriers everywhere..

In other news i just lost my job @ the pet shop. They caught me with me hands in the trill


sorry
 
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Or how about 2 women going into the same toilet together, same effect as 2 men going into the same toilet together - not right.
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I really struggle to see what's not right about that. How's it different to a man and a woman going in together?
 
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When i was a guard in certain areas and certain trains i would deliberately lock the toilets out of use and once out of that area (max 10 mins) i would unlock them for the genuine fare paying passengers for the remainder of the journey :lol:
 
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southerner2174 said:
When i was a guard in certain areas and certain trains i would deliberately lock the toilets out of use and once out of that area (max 10 mins) i would unlock them for the genuine fare paying passengers for the remainder of the journey :lol:
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I suppose you could always unlock it after you have done a full ticket check.
 
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Similar to an incident I had the earlier this week. After departure from terminus I commence full ticket check, and note female passenger in deep coma like sleep. None of the usual tricks to wake her worked. So I carried on and came back as it was 30 mins to first stop. Now I could tell she was not asleep as her eyelids were flickering - she was quite obviously pretending.

Anyway, I suspected she was only going to the first stop. So I quietly sat in the vacant seat next to her. And waited. Sure enough the automatic PIS announces the station and other passengers stand up. Just as we are entering the platform the lady suddenly comes out of her coma and calmly goes to get up. That was until she noted I was sat next to her. "Excuse me, I need to get off here" - that's ok. The doors won't open till I open them. Can I see your ticket please? "oh yes, I need to buy one". I don't know which was funnier. The look on her face when she realised I was sat there, or the look on everyone elses face when the watched me nobble her.
 
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