SNCF Loco hauled

Discussion in 'International Transport' started by Please Explain, 6 Nov 2016.

  1. Please Explain

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    Thanks for that.

    Yes, it will be sad.. I can see myself setting my sights on Eastern / Central Europe for bashing in the years to come when all the proper stuff in the West is finally gone.

    C'est la vie... :(

    Good memories, they must have continued past Mulhouse too all the way to Bâle (SNCF) too at some point not so long ago before the LGV opened?
     
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    Thanks for that, will see if we can get a visit to le 1513 in!

    A set of diagrams for the CC72100s has appeared in the files section on the Yahoo ERG group, valid until Feb 5th. Looks largely unchanged from 2016 but I suspect the date ties in with the new plastic.
     
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    Coming to this thread quite late, but I haven't yet spotted any mention of the Alsace TER200 (Strasbourg - Mulhouse - Bâle), which are all BB26000 hauled Corail (lightly refurbished but basically the original interiors, with ridiculously comfy bench seats).

    Had a great day on those in the summer with an ALSA rover.
     
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    They are superb. The still fabulous ride of the Corail - but with velour type cloth seat covers rather than the original leatherette.

    The TER200 trains prove that you do not need plastic EMUs to give a good fast frequent service to the public...

    Ridiculous to think that the legendary superb quality of the ride (due to the bogie and associated suspension design) stems from the use of the type of bogie first developed for the X3800 Picasso railcars in 1949



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    I was pleased to discover some of them are still compartment seconds too!
     
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    With 8 seats in each, they are not very comfortable when full...

    Envoyé de mon GT-I9505 en utilisant Tapatalk
     
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    I mentioned them up thread! :)

    Yes, the are very enjoyable cars to travel in. Especially in the voiture-pilote with the compartments as mentioned by Marc. Just a pity the doors have been removed, enjoyed one to myself from Strasbourg to Bâle in November.
    Still, the NMBS/SNCB I6's were nicer on le EC Iris / Vauban, but the TER200's are probably the best trains left on the route now.
     
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    Today, 6th February 2016, the change on the old 'ligne 4' officially begun :(

     
  9. Polarbear

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    For anyone wanting to have a spin around France on loco-hauled IC services - this marks the beginning of the end so if you get the chance, go.

    I liked this quote from the SNCF enthusiasts Society webpage;

    It doesn't shout "quality" does it?
     
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    They are also staggeringly ugly compared to previous SNCF regional DMUs.
     
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    It all boils down to preference - I am quite enthousiast about the look of the Coradia Polyvalent and Coradia Liner range!
     
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    They're a bit FLIRT-esque in concept, but the front end does look odd but still distinctly French. Not, of course, as pig-ugly as anything the Dutch have designed.
     
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    Give me a CC72100 et Corails any day over one of those plastic things!

    I believe IC 1542 (08:20 Belfort - Paris Est) is still hauled on Saturdays? -Gordon?! :D
     
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    Correct.
     
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    Merci! :D
     
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    Does anyone happen to know whether the Cevernol (Clermont Ferrand - Nimes), will have a loco-hauled diagram this year?

    I'd guess this will be the last year (if that hasn't already happened) for loco & stock on that route, given the increasing pace of running down such services in France generally.

    Any information most appreciated. :D
     
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    The Cévenol is being transferred to the Occitanie region, new rolling stock (Coradia) will be introduced in september 2018.
     
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    Thanks. On that basis, I'd assume that the current set up should stay in place until the new trains turn up.
     
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    I believe the current set up is units. It was when I was there in November. Plenty of other BB67400 et RRR out of Clermont on local stuff though.
     
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    It is units for the most part. I understand that last summer, one return diagram was operated with a loco & stock during the school holidays & was wondering if anyone had any idea whether a repeat was on the cards for this year?

    Also, SNCF also operate a steam hauled service on the mid section of the line during certain Wednesdays during July & August.
     

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