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Socialist Worker called to apologise

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I've just come across this story

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...4IGQCw&usg=AFQjCNGGiVKERoxumAcoszoQvHjhrPTHNg

Socialist Worker called to apologise over ‘vile’ article saying Eton schoolboy Horatio Chapple's death is ‘reason to save the polar bears’

A socialist newspaper has received calls to apologise after it ran an article claiming that the recent mauling of an Eton schoolboy on an Arctic expedition was “another reason to save the polar bears”.

Horatio Chapple, 17, was sleeping in his tent on an adventure holiday to the remote Svalbard islands when the starving animal ripped it open and dragged him out, inflicting deadly injuries to his head and torso.

An inquest is currently underway looking into the circumstances of the boy’s death – and the Socialist Worker ran the news under the headline: “Eton by bear? The inquest begins”.

Screenshots of the article with its “incredibly tasteless headline” were shared by incredulous users on Twitter.

Yet to make matters worse, the last two paragraphs of the story read: “Troublemaker has long supported campaigning for the environment...
As yet there seems to be no apology from the scummy 'newspaper', is this what 'socialism' is supposed to be about ?
 
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I don't see that any of the press are any better, the Mail had their nasty attack on Miliband's father, the Mirror had their fabricated story about British soldiers in the Gulf a few years back and the antics of News International have been very high profile in the last two years.
 

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Is this the newspaper where it is customary for the sellers when in an on-street situation to hold in both hands at the top left and right corners, with the full paper depth unfolded and on view in the same way as one of their placards at a demonstration would be shown....or is there any other Socialist newspaper that I am confusing this with ?

The sensationalism engendered by this story is obviously one that would be seen as a deliberate editorial decision to raise the profile of the publication, which normally is not one that is normally heard to any great extent.
 

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I don't see that any of the press are any better, the Mail had their nasty attack on Miliband's father

I hate the Mail, but there is a difference between making allegations about a dead man and laughing at the tragic death of a schoolboy just because he goes to a good school.
 

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I wonder if the newspaper's concern for their expressed welfare of Polar Bears would extend to their possible need for 17-year old members of the Youth Communists in the Siberian coastal and taiga areas to also be a possible food target for those animals

If so, I wonder how this animal welfare stance would be viewed in those areas of Siberia.
 

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I was incredibly surprised anyone could mock a death like this, but then realised it was the Socialist Worker. Don't like the politics, nor some of those who associated with them. These are the same kinds of people who have anti-fascist protests and end up with more arrests, causing more trouble than the goons they are protesting against :roll: .

The left wing in this country are a joke.
 

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The SWP (who produce the Socialist Worker) are not that popular on the left either, especially with their recent rape cover-up. The SW is pretty much the Sun of the Left with similar standards of journalism.
 

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I don't see that any of the press are any better, the Mail had their nasty attack on Miliband's father, the Mirror had their fabricated story about British soldiers in the Gulf a few years back and the antics of News International have been very high profile in the last two years.

Yes but that's freedom of the press for you.

:roll:
 

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The SWP (who produce the Socialist Worker) are not that popular on the left either, especially with their recent rape cover-up. The SW is pretty much the Sun of the Left with similar standards of journalism.

If the Socialist Worker is the "tabloid end" what is the "broadsheet end" - The Morning Star ?
 

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I don't think it's any more disgusting than the article the Mail published about Stephen Gates' death.

BUT isnt socialism all about loving your fellow man and us all being equal? If so then why an attack on a poor boy who died just because he came from a certain family or went to a certain school?

If inclusion and rights for everyone is the socialist cause then this does a disservice to everyone and actually makes them no better than the DM you so point out who done the same does it not?
 

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This is the SWP's brand of socialism. A lot of the socialists I know distance themselves from it
 

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Even Owen Jones thinks they have gone a bit far

Owen Jones is just trying to distract attention from the fact that Odd Miliband doesn't have a single principle in his body, as shown by the way he sold us all down the river with the "emergency" snooping legislation.

Owen Jones is a cretin.

I don't like Socialist Worker, they're a bit too much like the old Militant tendency for my liking. But compare it to the Daily Heil celebrating the murder of six children with this headline page:
daily-mail-philpott1.jpg


I guess it all serves as a nice distraction from the Conservative Party protecting paedophiles from justice.
 
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I guess it all serves as a nice distraction from the Conservative Party protecting paedophiles from justice.

And the Zionists bombing the hell out of people in a land that isnt theirs.

Not that it seems anyone cares
after nearly 200 views because obvioulsy women bishops and the ongoing Ukraine issue rate higher than the mindless slaughter of innocent people in their own land.
 

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But compare it to the Daily Heil celebrating the murder of six children with this headline page:
daily-mail-philpott1.jpg

Would anyone dare to suggest that this man should be viewed as a role model. People like him need revealing to the general public, noting his history.

Of course, there will be those who will find excuses to explain his behaviour and lifestyle and of others like Fred and Rose West, Dale Cregan and others of that ilk.
 

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Don't usually agree with Owen Jones (bit too left wing for my liking), but he's spot on here. The paper is using the tragic death of a young person to further their politics of envy, simply because he was fortunate enough to go to Eton.

It's this sort of stuff that tars the left wing, and it's why I'm wary of aligning myself with either wing.
 
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Owen Jones is just trying to distract attention from the fact that Odd Miliband doesn't have a single principle in his body, as shown by the way he sold us all down the river with the "emergency" snooping legislation.

Owen Jones is a cretin.

I don't like Socialist Worker, they're a bit too much like the old Militant tendency for my liking. But compare it to the Daily Heil celebrating the murder of six children with this headline page:
daily-mail-philpott1.jpg


I guess it all serves as a nice distraction from the Conservative Party protecting paedophiles from justice.

Ive just seen the picture you posted now and there is no way they are celebrating the murder of those young people either. You're blinded by your own self indignation there lad.

Oh and be careful of tarnishing the Tories as just the ones who diddled kids, hearing theres a few of the old Labour guard who were doing the same so wind you neck in.
 

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Owen Jones is just trying to distract attention from the fact that Odd Miliband doesn't have a single principle in his body, as shown by the way he sold us all down the river with the "emergency" snooping legislation.

Owen Jones is a cretin.

I don't like Socialist Worker, they're a bit too much like the old Militant tendency for my liking. But compare it to the Daily Heil celebrating the murder of six children with this headline page:
daily-mail-philpott1.jpg


I guess it all serves as a nice distraction from the Conservative Party protecting paedophiles from justice.

"Celebrating the murder of six children"

I think I must be more stupid than I realised, would you be good enough to explain where the "celebrating" is in the headline as I seem to have missed it

I'd also like to mention that in post 14 I have been quoted, I did not make any such comment so I'd be grateful if the poster would amend it to show reality, thank you
 

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Here's the sainted Daily Mirror not celebrating the same story...

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Would anyone dare to suggest that this man should be viewed as a role model. People like him need revealing to the general public, noting his history.

Of course, there will be those who will find excuses to explain his behaviour and lifestyle and of others like Fred and Rose West, Dale Cregan and others of that ilk.
I think the biggest issue with that Daily Mail front page is the headline "Product of Welfare UK", which is spinning a sickening story into the "anti-benefit" and "Broken Britain" rhetoric the Daily Mail is very fond of. I'm no fan of the Daily Mirror, but their headline is much more apposite...
 

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I think the biggest issue with that Daily Mail front page is the headline "Product of Welfare UK", which is spinning a sickening story into the "anti-benefit" and "Broken Britain" rhetoric the Daily Mail is very fond of. I'm no fan of the Daily Mirror, but their headline is much more apposite...

But can you point out where the 'celebrated' their deaths?

Or is it just another bit of rhetoric from Artic Troll before he mentions the cost of his season ticket.... Again?
 

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But can you point out where the 'celebrated' their deaths?

The sub-headline in the top left- "he bred 17 babies...to milk the benefits system" dehumanises the victims of his crime. I'm yet to see child murder victims elsewhere referred to as being "bred". Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman weren't described in such vile terms, that's for damn certain.

The Mirror manages to refer to the fact that they were "children" who were "killed" by their father. They talk of them as human beings, not as pieces of meat.

I have no issue celebrating the fact he's behind bars. My issue is talking about his victims as though they were chickens in a coop.

In other news, my season ticket is still a rip-off, and there are too many Daily Heil readers on my train <D
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be careful of tarnishing the Tories as just the ones who diddled kids, hearing theres a few of the old Labour guard who were doing the same.

I'm sure there was. Cyril Smith was a Liberal, for that matter.

It was the Tory government who appear to have hushed it all up in the 80s. Though it was also a Tory who wrote the dossier in the first place.
 

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I'd also like to mention that in post 14 I have been quoted, I did not make any such comment so I'd be grateful if the poster would amend it to show reality, thank you

There appears to be a few broken quote tags so I have fixed that for you.
 

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Not surprised to see this from the Socialist worker ,its that age old politics of envy that is backwards . Its not that boys choice what school he goes to or how much money his parents earn or how they earn it . As I understand it they didn't even earn their money in a contentious way , they where in medicine .


I think the biggest issue with that Daily Mail front page is the headline "Product of Welfare UK", which is spinning a sickening story into the "anti-benefit" and "Broken Britain" rhetoric the Daily Mail is very fond of. I'm no fan of the Daily Mirror, but their headline is much more apposite...
This

The daily mail used the story about innocent children being murdered by their father as a way to make a cheap point about benefits culture ,there is nothing to assimilate this crime with the benefits he received and no need to mention it on the headline , unless you are trying to make a cheap political point .

They had already run stories about that family before so it wasn't necessary to report again about the extent of the benefits they received and it certainly was not necessary to hijack the murder of innocent children to make a cheap point about benefits . Like horrific crimes haven't been committed by people that aren't in receipt of state benefits .

The mirror as much as I dont like that paper merely reported what had happened which was innocent children murdered by their father .
 
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The mirror as much as I dont like that paper merely reported what had happened which was innocent children murdered by their father .

Err.. except it didn't:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mick-philpott-believed-untouchable-because-1816075

A man who wasn’t just allowed to live lavishly off the state, but to publicly brag about it.
...his pride in having the state pay for whatever he wanted

...he’s the kind of degenerate who gives welfare a bad name.

the State didn’t just ALLOW Mick Philpott to exploit his children, it positively ENCOURAGED it.
 

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I meant in the front page headline , I should have been clearer . I dont know what either paper went on to say inside as I dont make a habit of reading either rag .

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I know the sun also run a story and headline spouting off about his benefits as if they had anything to do with the crime he committed and they would be included in the same group as the mail . if the mirror run that story I guess they should be included in that group
 
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