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Some fares missing from brfares.com?

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benk1342

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Has anyone else noticed some fares missing from brfares.com? Or am I being stupid? E.g., the super off-peak day return from Welwyn Garden City to Audley End (via Cambridge) is missing, though the single remains. I haven't bought NFM12 yet but NRE still shows this fare, so I'm confident it hasn't been removed.

Any ideas?
 
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It seems to think the only ticket available between Stalybridge and Manchester Piccadilly is the weekend First upgrade.
 

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There does seem to be a problem.

From ECR to GTW (East Croydon to Gatwick) it does not show the £4.90 +Any Permitted single, but does show the £5.00 FCC Only single.

Of course, the existence of the FCC Only fare is daft as nobody would possibly be best advised to buy it.
 

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It seems to think the only ticket available between Stalybridge and Manchester Piccadilly is the weekend First upgrade.

That's because all tickets from Greater Manchester stations outside of central Manchester to central Manchester are sold as Any GM station outside of centre - "Manchester Central Zone" (which I think includes unlimited Metrolink travel in the Metrolink City Centre Zone).
 
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The fares are entered for Manchester Piccadilly - Stalybridge in the reverse direction, so the Manchester Central Zone tickets must only be for tickets to Manchester. Could someone confirm this?
 

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There does seem to be a problem.

From ECR to GTW (East Croydon to Gatwick) it does not show the £4.90 +Any Permitted single, but does show the £5.00 FCC Only single.

Of course, the existence of the FCC Only fare is daft as nobody would possibly be best advised to buy it.

It possibly hasn't been updated to NFM12. In NFM11 the ANY PERMITTED fare was £5.70. ORCATS grab by Southern who were getting £0 of the £5 FCC ONLY single.
 

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There does seem to be a problem.

From ECR to GTW (East Croydon to Gatwick) it does not show the £4.90 +Any Permitted single, but does show the £5.00 FCC Only single.

Of course, the existence of the FCC Only fare is daft as nobody would possibly be best advised to buy it.

It possibly hasn't been updated to NFM12. In NFM11 the ANY PERMITTED fare was £5.70. ORCATS grab by Southern who were getting £0 of the £5 FCC ONLY single.

Fares for the flow ECR - GTW Route Any Permitted are defined from Croydon Stations rather than specifically East Croydon. The cluster for the origin seems to include South Croydon specifically despite it being part of Croydon Stations.

The £5.70 fare is there however I cannot find the £4.90 fare in The Manual either.
 

MarkyMarkD

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It's strange. Ticketing sites show the £4.90 (Any Permitted) and £5.00 (FCC only) fares only, not the £5.70 one which no longer seems to exist.

Incidentally, has anyone noticed that TheTrainline.com (which I rarely use except for research purposes) now shows "peak hours" in a different colour for some journeys?
 

bb21

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Indeed. How strange.

It is almost as if The Manual has not been updated.
 
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