kentrailman
Member
Hi.
I have been baffled by several apparent paradoxes and i wonder if any of you know the truth !!!??
I am a very regular traveller between Ashford International and Bristol
I usually end up with either an off peak return or a super off peak return.
These have restriction codes such as YC and XC which in turn on their pages lead to restrictions such as C1 , CJ , 7E and 9J referring to tiem restrictions on trains from or to st Pancras
so.. here are my questions !!!
1. The restrictions from St Pancras seem to be completely ignored by the Journey planner when buying a ticket. The restrictions say you cannot use any train from St Pancras between x and y times but the Journey planner uses them regardless when you go on line to buy a ticket.
Which is correct? ..or do those restictions only apply to trains going North from St Pancras not South Eastern High speed ( but this isn`t stated on the codes )
2. The National routing guide when you look this route up doesn`t seem to mention the high speed St Pancras route at all, only the via Tonbridge or Via Brighton type routes .. Is this why the tickets NEVER open the barrier at St Pancras ? they always fail to open it. The tickets always open the barrier at Charing Cross, London Bridge etc. ( As well of course as Paddington)
3. Is such a ticket in fact not valid via High Speed St Pancras route ? BUT when you buy a ticket on the journey planer, eg South Eastern, FGW etc, St Pancras is shown as the advised route, ALSO the ticket has " + Any permitted" on it and South Eastern`s website says that any ticket with this written on it IS valid via St Pancras
SO, IS such a ticket valid on High speed or not, and do the time restrictions from St Pancras apply or not ? Is the Journey planner the be all and end all or is it the validity codes that are?
Usually I just go through the manual gates and I`ve not yet been stopped and questioned, but plan to reference the Journey planner if I am ! Which is the "final " thing, the codes or the journey planner?!!
I have been baffled by several apparent paradoxes and i wonder if any of you know the truth !!!??
I am a very regular traveller between Ashford International and Bristol
I usually end up with either an off peak return or a super off peak return.
These have restriction codes such as YC and XC which in turn on their pages lead to restrictions such as C1 , CJ , 7E and 9J referring to tiem restrictions on trains from or to st Pancras
so.. here are my questions !!!
1. The restrictions from St Pancras seem to be completely ignored by the Journey planner when buying a ticket. The restrictions say you cannot use any train from St Pancras between x and y times but the Journey planner uses them regardless when you go on line to buy a ticket.
Which is correct? ..or do those restictions only apply to trains going North from St Pancras not South Eastern High speed ( but this isn`t stated on the codes )
2. The National routing guide when you look this route up doesn`t seem to mention the high speed St Pancras route at all, only the via Tonbridge or Via Brighton type routes .. Is this why the tickets NEVER open the barrier at St Pancras ? they always fail to open it. The tickets always open the barrier at Charing Cross, London Bridge etc. ( As well of course as Paddington)
3. Is such a ticket in fact not valid via High Speed St Pancras route ? BUT when you buy a ticket on the journey planer, eg South Eastern, FGW etc, St Pancras is shown as the advised route, ALSO the ticket has " + Any permitted" on it and South Eastern`s website says that any ticket with this written on it IS valid via St Pancras
SO, IS such a ticket valid on High speed or not, and do the time restrictions from St Pancras apply or not ? Is the Journey planner the be all and end all or is it the validity codes that are?
Usually I just go through the manual gates and I`ve not yet been stopped and questioned, but plan to reference the Journey planner if I am ! Which is the "final " thing, the codes or the journey planner?!!