Southern Class 313 withdrawal/storage/scrapping updates

[Sun Chariot]

Different topic: the Sussex Rambler, 201 had a headboard 313 FAREWELL 1976 2023. Photo's on this thread, post 1030.

Was the headboard Southern's or BLS's? If the former, do any of you know if it'll get used again, at the end of this week?

I checked a well known auction site but it's not up for sale...

 

[prod_pep]

Eight Class 313s out today according to PTT's blog, one fewer than yesterday.

I'm heading down to the coast on Friday afternoon now in case no 313s make it out on Saturday. As the weekday diagrams have changed with the industrial action, can anyone advise the last booked 313 working of the day, please?

Edit: I think the last 313-operated service of Friday will in fact be in the early hours of Saturday morning: the 0036 Barnham - Bognor, if a 377 doesn't deputise. Would be very grateful for confirmation.

 

[Sun Chariot]

206 and 212 to Eastleigh on Wednesday if all goes to plan

I don't see the stock movement on Realtime for Weds 17th or Thur 18th. Any Intel?

 

[that1pepfan]

I don't see the stock movement on Realtime for Weds 17th or Thur 18th. Any Intel?

As you said that I checked and noticed this.

 

[3973EXL]

I don't see the stock movement on Realtime for Weds 17th or Thur 18th. Any Intel?

Realtime Trains | 5Z01 0942 Lovers Walk T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) | 17/05/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Z01 0942 departure from Lovers Walk T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) on 17/05/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[JonathanH]

Absolutely ridiculously poor train planning to have a gutted service worked by 3 cars with half the fleet sat doing nothing in Selhurst.

Who is going to transfer the units on an additional unscheduled move if the drivers are in dispute and not working overtime?

Besides, in the context of this thread it would mean 313s not working.

 

[ThameslinkUser]

Besides, in the context of this thread it would mean 313s not working.

Good.

 

[Sm5]

Different topic: the Sussex Rambler, 201 had a headboard 313 FAREWELL 1976 2023. Photo's on this thread, post 1030.

Was the headboard Southern's or BLS's? If the former, do any of you know if it'll get used again, at the end of this week?

I checked a well known auction site but it's not up for sale...

It might have been an onboard raffle prize.

 

[TheHSRailFan]

Different topic: the Sussex Rambler, 201 had a headboard 313 FAREWELL 1976 2023. Photo's on this thread, post 1030.

Was the headboard Southern's or BLS's? If the former, do any of you know if it'll get used again, at the end of this week?

I checked a well known auction site but it's not up for sale...

Funnily enough, it's currently being sold off to the highest bidder for charity by a Southern Conductor.

https://twitter.com/Coast_Conductor/status/1658235441928101889 (Twitter thread)

**This competition has no affiliation with my employer** Would you like to get your hands on some class 313 merchandise including the grand prize of this farewell class 313 headboard modelled by myself all in aid of charity? Follow this feed for more information(1)

Starting from today I am holding a charity raffle all in aid of Mind in Brighton & Hove a mental health charity. Entries are £5 each with a maximum of 20 entries permitted by each person. Payment can be made via bank transfer or in cash in person. (2)

(3) 1st Prize is the glorious farewell class 313 headboard modelled by myself. 2nd Prize is a selection of Class 313 & Class 315 badges kindly donated by Alfie Crouch 3rd Prize is a selection of window labels again donated by Alfie Crouch who I’d like to thank personally!

(4) I’ll be turning my DM’s on should you wish to enter also this can be via my Instagram thetravelling_trainconductor the raffle will be drawn on the 16th of June. Good luck folks (4/4)

The last Update as I have seen is that Bidding has already reached £200 for Mind.

 

[Sun Chariot]

Funnily enough, it's currently being sold off to the highest bidder for charity by a Southern Conductor.

https://twitter.com/Coast_Conductor/status/1658235441928101889 (Twitter thread)

The last Update as I have seen is that Bidding has already reached £200 for Mind.

Thanks. If.it's the headboard being held by the chap in that Twitter post, then it's actually a different headboard, not from the tour. Photo's attached.

Sm5, that's agood point, I hadn't thought of that. It's what used to happen in the days I frequented tours (1980s!).

As you said that I checked and noticed this.

Marvellous - thanks, it's been activated since the time I was looking. Luckily I'd already moved my Wednesday morning meetings about. Hope to photograph it.

Realtime Trains | 5Z01 0942 Lovers Walk T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) | 17/05/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Z01 0942 departure from Lovers Walk T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh Arlington (Zg) on 17/05/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Thanks for that too.

Today's scheduled stock move seems a bit dormant...

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Consist has left Lovers for Eastleigh a little late. Is it 206 + 212?

 

[03_179]

Consist has left Lovers for Eastleigh a little late. Is it 206 + 212?

Those are the two on the plan

 

[banjo125]

I know it's (slightly) off topic, but it's being announced that Saturdays service is amended, been said that the last Brighton to Victoria is @ 20:41

I know it's (slightly) off topic, but it's being announced that Saturdays service is amended, been said

 

[Sun Chariot]

Consist has left Lovers for Eastleigh a little late. Is it 206 + 212?

Seems to have got lost between Emsworth and Havant.....

 

[ATrainSpotter]

Anyone know if they'll run 313s on the Seaford branch on Saturday?

 

[Sun Chariot]

Seems to have got lost between Emsworth and Havant.....

Found it! Blimey, that 12 minute layover must've been to wind up the clockwork: 206 and 212 came charging past - with traction motors at full scream.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

I have now changed the title of this thread to Southern Class 313 withdrawal/scrapping updates

 

[LudwigTails]

does anybody know when and where will the last class 313 be running on and from where and to?

 

[JonathanH]

I know it's (slightly) off topic, but it's being announced that Saturdays service is amended, been said that the last Brighton to Victoria is @ 20:41

Yes, as it shows in RTT, but it might also be noted that the last arrival into Brighton from Seaford is at 1829, and from Hove is at 1832, so any candidate for last 313 service is well before 2040, if they are actually running.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I have now changed the title of this thread to Southern Class 313 withdrawal/scrapping updates

In line with my 321 thread title change, I see

 

[Islineclear3_1]

In line with my 321 thread title change, I see

It was on the cards...just hadn't had time to amend it but as I frequent your 321 thread, your post reminded me. I was going to rename it to Southern 313 withdrawal/storage updates but scrapping just seemed more apt

 

[louis97]

The uncertainty is whether they will be out on Saturday or not; a few sources mention they are expected to be running until Friday at least.

Having seen the planned service for the 20th, it looks doubtful any 313s will be out but perhaps they will use them on the Seaford line only. I've already made plans so it will be most frustrating if they leave it until just a couple of days before to confirm Friday is in fact the last day.

The latest post from the Twitter team just a couple of hours ago doesn't help: "The 313s will be running all day on Saturday 20 May on the Brighton to Seaford/Lewes routes and some to Portsmouth. They will also be operating on the Littlehampton to Bognor Regis/Portsmouth & Southsea route." There is no service to Portsmouth or Bognor planned for Saturday and they surely won't be used on the Brighton to Barnham service.

No 313s are booked out on Saturday due to the heavily reduced timetable, the Seaford service is booked 8 car 377s.

 

[TheHSRailFan]

No 313s are booked out on Saturday due to the heavily reduced timetable, the Seaford service is booked 8 car 377s.

That's what I'm getting told as well, It was going to be 1 diagram but it seems that was internal speculation (or it was going to happen but it gets swapped). Pretty much too late for me now. Can't make it today or Friday.

Their last 48 Hours, use them while you can those on the coastway!

 

[boiledbeans2]

No 313s are booked out on Saturday due to the heavily reduced timetable, the Seaford service is booked 8 car 377s.

I would've thought they would use the 313s more intensively as they are "free" to use. By that, I mean that their remaining mileage is "free", where no further maintenance is required.

In SWR, when they withdrew 10-car metro operations, I remember they made 456+456+455 formations to "finish off" their 456s as opposed to just parking up their 456s.

 

[Sun Chariot]

That's what I'm getting told as well, It was going to be 1 diagram but it seems that was internal speculation (or it was going to happen but it gets swapped). Pretty much too late for me now. Can't make it today or Friday.

Their last 48 Hours, use them while you can those on the coastway!

PEPS out west this morning. 07:34-35 at Bedhampton is where Littlehampton to Pompey passes Pompey to Brighton.

This morning, not only did the services actually arrive at the same time but the PEP Gods looked kindly on us, with 207 west to Pompey and 215 east to Brighton.

Tomorrow's challenge for me: a photo!

 

[louis97]

I would've thought they would use the 313s more intensively as they are "free" to use. By that, I mean that their remaining mileage is "free", where no further maintenance is required.

They are not really suitable in times of a reduced timetable though, given they can only run as single units on most routes due to short platforms.

 

[Bishopstone]

23:53 Seaford-Brighton on Friday may be the last, then. Unless there’s a later arrival into Brighton from west coastway that’s typically a 313?

 

[class387]

Yesterday on Twitter they were still saying that they'd run 313s to Seaford on Saturday (having removed the erroneous information about Portsmouth) - so just to confirm is this no longer the case?

 

[prod_pep]

23:53 Seaford-Brighton on Friday may be the last, then. Unless there’s a later arrival into Brighton from west coastway that’s typically a 313?

As I said above, there is a 0036 Barnham - Bognor Regis which works off the LIT-BOG/PMS workings, so this would be the last service assuming a 377 isn't substituted. An incredibly awkward final train if so and a major waste of time and money for those who expected it to be Saturday.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

As I said above, there is a 0036 Barnham - Bognor Regis which works off the LIT-BOG/PMS workings, so this would be the last service assuming a 377 isn't substituted. An incredibly awkward final train if so and a major waste of time and money for those who expected it to be Saturday.

Indeed. And they'll have to get it back to Lover's presumably