Split Tickets and Reservations

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  1. westv

    westv Established Member

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    This may seem like a daft question but when you split AP tickets on HT and EC what happens to the reservation at the split point. In other words would you be safe to carry on sitting in the same seat in the knowledge that nobody else would have reserved it or is there the possibility that a passenger boarding at the split point could have a new reservation for the same seat? Are reservations on HT and EC for the whole journey even if the person is only travelling part way?
     
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    Greenback Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    If I understand you correctly, you're asking about making a journey mad eup of tow separate Advance ticket son either Hull Trains or East Coast. If I'm right, then each Advance ticket will have a reservation attached. Unless they are for exactly the same seat then technically you'll have to move at the split point. It's possible that the system may allocate your original seat to another passenger joining at that point or even at a later station.

    I'm sorry if I've misunderstood.
     
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    LexyBoy Established Member Fares Advisor

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    Yes, the seat you had reserved on the first ticket could be reserved by someone else after the destination of your first ticket. A quick look at the reservation ticket on the seat will tell you if it has - if not you're free to stay in it.
     
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    yorkie Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    A booking office can try to ensure you get the same seat throughout.

    Trainsplit.com will automatically try to do this, where it's possible (It's not always) - though I am unsure exactly where it's at at the moment, but if it doesn't give you the same seat now, it will be more likely to do so in future, and in the long term you may be able to choose your seat.

    If you book individually on a website like Hull Trains' own site, you may end up playing musical chairs throughout the journey.

    With East Coast's own site, if you are travelling on their trains, you can select your seat, so you could pick the same one each time, but this does not work if the ticket is the last one in the quota.
     
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    Except on XC the scrolling displays only actually change once you arrive at the station the next reservation is from. So, for example, you might be happily snoozing in your seat reserved from Newcastle to York only to get rudely awoken by someone getting on at York who says you're in their seat. It would be much better if the display changed before you arrive at York, so you have time to go in search of an unreserved seat.
     
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    LexyBoy Established Member Fares Advisor

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    OP is travelling on HT and EC though - not sure if HT have this on their Meridians?

    On XC you might also find that even if unreserved someone reserves it en-route. Or that the system hasn't downloaded the reservations until 3 stops into the journey, by which point all seats are occupied.
     
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    HT have paper reservations so you should be fine with that!
     
  8. westv

    westv Established Member

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    Many thanks for the replies. So if the paper ticket only has one reservation then I should be fine?
     
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    They do display "reserved from xxx" if the seat isn't currently reserved. What they don't do is display more than one reservation at a time, so someone with a reservation as far as Reading can't check whether the seat would be reserved after then.

    In general, it's easier with XC to reserve a seat from when you get on a train to when you get off.

    Not that this has much to do with AP tickets on HT and EC.
     
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    SickyNicky Verified Rep

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    Yes, it will try, but there are certain restrictions on where the NRS will give you reservations when you ask for them (unless you specify particular seats, which TrainSplit will be trying to do in the future).

    So in the worst case, at the moment you might get reservations in different seats for each ticket. Sorry about that.
     
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