Stagecoach East Scotland

[RomeoCharlie71]

Is Perth short on Double Deckers at the minute? Been seeing more and more Tridents that are usually with Strathtay or Fife on local and rural Perth routes.

Seen 18082, 18086 from Strathtay and 18508 from Fife in the week or so.

18082 and 18508 are Perth vehicles, 18086 is a Blairgowrie vehicle (more than likely on loan, or was down for a service/MOT; not sure if Blairgowrie can dock vehicles)

 

[GaryMcEwan]

18082 and 18508 are Perth vehicles, 18086 is a Blairgowrie vehicle (more than likely on loan, or was down for a service/MOT; not sure if Blairgowrie can dock vehicles)

Have they recently transferred to Perth as they weren't here a couple of weeks ago.

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Have they recently transferred to Perth as they weren't here a couple of weeks ago.

As a result of the August changes I believe.

 

[GaryMcEwan]

Maybe I'm missing something so correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the idea of route branding a bus was for the fact that bus or buses, would be used on that specific route?

So are Perth constantly using their 1&2 Letham and Tulloch E300s on other routes and using other buses in their place. Surely it would be better to keep them on the routes they're meant for and let the other buses go elsewhere?

 

[overthewater]

I believe there are short of correct type of buses..

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Arbroath have no more than 8 spare buses (and 1 reserve, 1 ancillary) to cover their PVR of 60 at the moment...

 

[Stan Drews]

Arbroath have no more than 8 spare buses (and 1 reserve, 1 ancillary) to cover their PVR of 60 at the moment...

8 spare for a PVR of 60 is 13.33%, which is around the norm for Stagecoach, so nothing unusual about that.

 

[GaryMcEwan]

The E300s that should be on the 1&2 have been put onto the 15/A, and the Tridents put on the 1&2.

If they are that short, surely they could draft in extra buses from other parts of the business to allow the E300s to be out back onto the routes they were designed for.

 

[overthewater]

I do believe certain depots are not short but are short in the correct type of the fleet.

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

The E300s that should be on the 1&2 have been put onto the 15/A, and the Tridents put on the 1&2.

If they are that short, surely they could draft in extra buses from other parts of the business to allow the E300s to be out back onto the routes they were designed for.

That's quite interesting, actually. Don't the 15/A have school runs tied in with some diagrams?

8 spare for a PVR of 60 is 13.33%, which is around the norm for Stagecoach, so nothing unusual about that.

Unless I've worked something out wrong, my calculations say it's 11.76...%

However, having 2 SD, 5 DD and 1 coach spare isn't exactly suitable for services only suitable for a minibus. Not only that, but 2 B5LH vehicles failed in Aberdeen over the weekend whilst operating GoNorthEast festival shuttles, and a Solo was involved in an RTC.

A Versa was used on the DCC tendered 206 service just last week, too...

 

[GaryMcEwan]

That's quite interesting, actually. Don't the 15/A have school runs tied in with some diagrams?


Unless I've worked something out wrong, my calculations say it's 11.76...%

However, having 2 SD, 5 DD and 1 coach spare isn't exactly suitable for services only suitable for a minibus. Not only that, but 2 B5LH vehicles failed in Aberdeen over the weekend whilst operating GoNorthEast festival shuttles, and a Solo was involved in an RTC.

A Versa was used on the DCC tendered 206 service just last week, too...

Yeah the 0750 15A is the school run for Perth Grammar and in reverse at 1520. Tridents 18014, 18015 and 18016 have been fitted with seatbelts and the branded E300s don't.

 

[Stan Drews]

Unless I've worked something out wrong, my calculations say it's 11.76...%

You have.
8/60 x100 = 13.33

 

[overthewater]

A few points, Kirkcaldy M&S is shutting down much it even harder for current services, NOTE town central is utterly crap but the rest of Kirkcaldy is busy.. Main Hospital, two collage site and of course the big Retail park which has buses every 10mins into it.

Plus some minor service changes are taking place in November: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/servi...rticle?SituationId=ID-12/10/2018-15:14:13:054

We are making a small number of service changes to address customer requests and feedback received over the past few months. A summary of the changes is given below.

Fife Area

Service 7: Dunfermline – Kirkcaldy – Leven

Minor timetable revisions to some early morning and evening journeys between Dunfermline and Leven, including the withdrawal of some poorly used journeys at the start and end of the day.

Service 7B: Kelty – Dunfermline – Dalgety Bay

A Monday to Friday 0615 Dunfermline to Hillend Industrial Estate journey is introduced.

Service 8/8A: Dunfermline – Culross / Alloa

Minor revisions to times to improve reliability.

Service 19: Rosyth – Ballingry

The Monday to Friday 165219B journey from Rosyth will now start from the Dockyard at 1645.

Service 24/24A: St Andrews – Glenrothes

See entry for service X24 below.

Service 39/39A/39B/39C/39D: Kirkcaldy – Glenrothes – Leslie / Newcastle

The 1433 39A Leslie to Kirkcaldy Monday to Friday journey now ends at Pitteuchar on schooldays instead of Thornton.

Service 42/42B: St Andrews – Tayport – Dundee

The Monday to Friday 0730 and 0745 Tayport to Dundee journeys and 0745 Dundee to St Andrews journeys are retimed slightly to improve reliability.

Service 99/99A/99B/99C/99D: St Andrews – Leuchars – Dundee

The 0812 Dundee to St Andrews Monday to Friday now runs 3 minutes later at 0815.

Service N55: Dunfermline – Rosyth – Inverkeithing – Edinburgh

This service now departs from St Andrew Square Stop YD (north side, opposite bus station entrance) instead of Waverley Bridge.

Service X2: Ferrytoll – Amazon

Service withdrawn due to low passenger numbers.

Service X4: Glenrothes – Markinch – Leven

New 0535 & 0555 Leven to Glenrothes Monday to Friday journeys are added to provide new connections from Leven to Glasgow and Edinburgh via Glenrothes.

Service X5: Dunfermline – Halbeath – Edinburgh

Service X9: Glenrothes – Halbeath – Edinburgh

The 0640 Dunfermline to Edinburgh X5 journey is replaced by an X9 journey from Glenrothes at 0630. Times from Halbeath to Edinburgh are unchanged.

Service 24/24A: St Andrews – Glenrothes

Service X24: St Andrews – Glenrothes – Dunfermline – Kincardine – Glasgow – Airport

The 0525 Dunfermline to Glenrothes Monday to Friday, 0700 Kincardine to Glenrothes Saturday and 0725 & 0935 Dunfermline to Glenrothes Sunday journeys are withdrawn. Monday to Saturday evening journeys between Glenrothes and St Andrews run 10 minutes later, and some times between Pitlessie and St Andrews are slightly adjusted to improve reliability.

Service X26: Dundee – Glenrothes – Dunfermline – Kincardine – Glasgow

New 0518 Glenrothes to Glasgow Monday to Friday journey added. There are slight adjustments to some times between Pitlessie and Dundee to improve reliability.

Service X27: Leven – Kirkcaldy – Dunfermline – Kincardine – Glasgow

Revised timetable: additional early morning and evening journeys are extended to start and end at Leven.

Service X37: Chapel – Kirkcaldy – Glenrothes – Pitcairn

The 1417 Glenrothes to Kirkcaldy Monday to Friday journey now ends at Kirkcaldy bus station on schooldays instead of Fair Isle Road.

Service X54: Ninewells – Dundee – Glenrothes – Halbeath P&R – Edinburgh

A new stop in Dundee on Perth Road at Clayhills Grove is added.

Service X55: Dunfermline – Rosyth – Ferrytoll P&R – Edinburgh

The 0815 Edinburgh to Dunfermline Monday to Friday journey now starts from Chambers Street and does not serve the bus station.

Dundee & Angus area

Service 30: Edzell – Brechin – Montrose – Arbroath

Monday to Saturday off peak journeys are extended to serve Westway Retail Park and Elliot Industrial Estate, providing additional journey opportunities to Asda and other retail outlets.

Service 39: Arbroath – Dundee – Perth

The 1335 Arbroath to Kingoodie Monday to Friday journeyis retimed to run 5 minutes later from Dundee bus station in order to suit the school finishing time at Harris Academy.

New timetables will be available week commencing Monday 5 November.

 

[Fifescottish]

Pity the X2 is going. Means there is now no link to Edinburgh services from the Eastern Expansion, apart from the 89 which doesn't run that often and only serves part of the area.

A few points, Kirkcaldy M&S is shutting down much it even harder for current services, NOTE town central is utterly crap but the rest of Kirkcaldy is busy.. Main Hospital, two collage site and of course the big Retail park which has buses every 10mins into it.

Plus some minor service changes are taking place in November: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/servi...rticle?SituationId=ID-12/10/2018-15:14:13:054

 

[overthewater]

I think the council will step in and pay for it for the next few months, since it goes to Amazon aswell, Just to say the whole west fife tenders are getting redone next year... and should have been out now for evaluation. You have to wonder if its been held back to rejig the peak links for the new suggested routes?

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

It has also been rumoured that from this date, contactless payments will be rolled out across the East Scotland network.

 

[Fifescottish]

It has also been rumoured that from this date, contactless payments will be rolled out across the East Scotland network.

Not before time!

Let's hope the council step in and either route the 89 or subsidise the X2. Only issue uth the 89 is it finishes too early for commuters!

 

[GaryMcEwan]

I wonder who has made the cockup of making the plate for Perth's 29019. It's meant to have been re-registered as 900RWX, but it's going about with a plate of N900RWX.

Hopefully it'll get rectified soon as at the moment it's going about Perth with a dodgy plate.

 

[Fifescottish]

Looks like Bay Travels 89 is being rerouted to replace the X2. Let's hope they run it later, as it currently doesn't run late enough for commuters.

 

[overthewater]

Not before time!

Let's hope the council step in and either route the 89 or subsidise the X2. Only issue uth the 89 is it finishes too early for commuters!

Looks like Bay Travels 89 is being rerouted to replace the X2. Let's hope they run it later, as it currently doesn't run late enough for commuters.

Nope. Unless some people kick up a stink, I think some might. Surly it wouldn't take much to have 07.04 morning bus and 19.00 return bus. Mind you

 

[Fifescottish]

Is the new timetable available?

 

[overthewater]

Not yet.

 

[GaryMcEwan]

Not sure about the rest of East Scotland, but Perth now have the new ERG machines. Contactless enablement is imminent as well (Thank God).

 

[overthewater]

The rest of The fleet I believe have them bar Glenrothes and should start next week.

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Arbroath (and Forfar o/s) do not have theirs yet.

 

[overthewater]

Those two depots should be getting them this week.

 

[overthewater]

Another bus fire in the fleet.. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3514710/fife-bus-fire-rosyth-emergency/

A BUS was engulfed in flames after a blaze broke out – sending thick, black smoke over a Fife town.

Emergency services were scrambled to the scene on Queensferry Road in Rosyth after the alarm was raised at 10.30am this morning.



1
The fire erupted in a bus
Worried locals took to social media to show the bus ablaze.

Smoke could be seen pouring from the vehicle as it was engulfed in the flames.

Five children rescued from burning building in North Lanarkshire
Fire crews attended to the scene and it’s understood there have been no injuries.

They were stood down by 11.30am.

But local roads were shut while emergency crews dealt with the incident

 

[Volvodart]

Driverless buses to start Edinburgh-Fife journeys within months

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman....inburgh-fife-journeys-within-months-1-4833672

People in Edinburgh and Fife will soon be among the first in the UK to experience self-driving vehicle services as part of a number of new public trials. Three pilots have been announced, ranging from self-driving taxis to autonomous buses, that will get a share of a £25 million grant in a bid to bring self-driving vehicles onto UK roads by 2021.

An autonomous bus pilot in Edinburgh, known as Project CAV Forth, received a £4.35 million slice of the fund, paving the way for a service running from the Forth Bridge into Edinburgh Park Train and Tram interchange.

A driver will still be required to be present on the bus during the trial as a back-up for passenger safety and to comply with UK legislation.

Five Alexander Dennis single-decker manual buses will be converted as part of the pilot, carrying up to 42 passengers for 14 miles.

Business and Energy Secretary Greg Clark announced the winning bidders in Oxford on Thursday, after trying a self-driving vehicle first-hand, which is being tested around the city.

“Today is very significant because it just shows that the decision that we took to have autonomous vehicles as the heart of our industry strategy is now paying fruits,” Mr Clark said.

“We will see over the years ahead the use of these cars and vehicles right across the country, and so what we’re announcing today is that we’re going to have a pilot in Edinburgh for example, for a bus to drive autonomously into the city centre from outside.

“In London, we’re going to have Addison Lee cabs that are going to make use of the technology and further testing right across the country, so what was previously a rather futuristic hope has now become a reality.”

The MP was taken on a test vehicle run by autonomous vehicle software company Oxbotica, the first person outside its technical team to try the autonomous mode on the streets of the UK.

Co-founder Paul Newman travelled alongside, explaining how the system works.

All the projects will include social behavioural research, to understand how driverless technology can be seamlessly integrated into society, with the findings applied to the development for future autonomous service models.

Scottish Secretary David Mundell said: “I’m delighted that Edinburgh has been chosen as a base for this exciting project.

“The city is a hotbed for innovation and this £4.35 million grant is welcome further support for Scotland’s research and technology sectors.

“The UK Government’s Modern Industrial Strategy is investing in the UK’s future through innovation. Autonomous vehicles are just one example of that commitment in driving the UK forward.”

The Government’s Centre for Connected Autonomous Vehicles was established in 2015, in a bid to make the UK a world leader in self-driving technology, with £250 million - match-funded by industry, being invested so far.

Trials are already under way in parts of the UK, including Bristol, Coventry, Greenwich and Milton Keynes.

 

[overthewater]

There already a new thread for it

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/uk-first-driverless-buses-from-stagecoach-fife.173943/

 

[Volvodart]

Well, it is now on here to for posterity, as specific threads have a habit of disappearing.