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Jordan Adam

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Will changes be in the new year? Is it express services that are changing or local services as well I heard X61 definitely times being reviewed.

The changes should be announced within the next 2 or so weeks... that's all i'm saying! The consultation was going to be launched last month but the general election has pushed stuff back for now.
 
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That is correct, Should be launched to Staff on December 13th, and the general public the Monday morning I understand.

Stagecoach have gained the Weekday Montrose to Laurencekirk service from Jan 6th
 
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That is correct, Should be launched to Staff on December 13th, and the general public the Monday morning I understand.

Stagecoach have gained the Weekday Montrose to Laurencekirk service from Jan 6th

Have stagecoach kept the Saturdays Montrose to laurencekirk service as well next month?
 

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So has it been pulled until ealry jan? Any later and you run into xmas its very hard to give people enough time.
 

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So has it been pulled until ealry jan? Any later and you run into xmas its very hard to give people enough time.

Too early to say, most service consultations at Stagecoach don't get posted until early evening. It's not been unknown for them to appear as late as 21:00.
 

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Changes are now online...

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/east-scotland/service-change-proposals

Service changes from Monday 24 February

After reviewing our network of services across Fife, Perth & Kinross, Dundee & Angus, we have put together some proposed service changes that we'd like to share with you. We're consulting with you, along with local authorities and staff and we're hoping to introduce these changes from Monday 24 February 2020.
If you have any feedback on the proposals below, we'd love to hear it! Simply drop us an email at [email protected] before Friday 3 January 2020.

A full summary of our proposed changes can be found below, along with a link to the proposed timetables (just click on the header to view).

Fife Area

Service 8/8A: Dunfermline – Falkirk / Alloa
Proposal: The 0633 Culross to Dunfermline Monday to Saturday journey will run 10 minutes earlier to improve connections at Dunfermline bus station. The 0908 High Valleyfield to Dunfermline Monday to Friday journey will now start from Culross at 0901. The 1750 Dunfermline to High Valleyfield Monday to Saturday journey will run at 1800. Service 8A will be revised to serve Westfield turning circle during the day.
Service type: Partly Contracted.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from customers.

Service 11: Kirkcaldy – Fife Central Retail Park
Proposal: The timing point at Valley Gardens Park will be moved to Valley Primary School. This will not affect the route or timing of the service.
Service type: Partly Contracted.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from staff.

Service 20A: Lochgelly – Ballingry
Proposal: Revised route in Ballingry to serve the eastern loop of Navitie Park.
Service type: Wholly Contracted.
Reason for proposal: Following a request by Fife Council.

Service 31: Glenrothes – Bankhead / Stenton
Proposal: Reduce frequency to hourly.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Low passenger numbers.

Service 33: Kirkcaldy – Cardenden – Lochgelly – Cowdenbeath – Halbeath P&R – QMH – Dunfermline
Proposal: The 0555 Dunfermline to Halbeath Park & Ride and 0633 Halbeath Park & Ride to Dunfermline Saturday journeys will be withdrawn.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Low passenger numbers.

Service 36: Glenrothes – Newburgh – Bridge of Earn – Perth
Proposal: Minor timetable amendments and minor change in route between Freuchie and Glenrothes.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from staff.

Service 39: Kirkcaldy – Glenrothes / Leslie
Proposal: Revise running times on 39C/D Monday to Friday evening journeys. Move Finglassie timing point to Courthill Drive.
Service type: Partly Contracted.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from staff.

Service 43/44: Leven – Glenrothes / Whitehill
Proposal: Withdraw daytime journeys from Whitehill Industrial Estate.
Service Type: Partly Contracted.
Reason for proposal: Low passenger numbers using the service during the day.

Service 89/89A: Crossford – North Queensferry
Proposal: Kirkwood Crescent no longer served heading towards Dunfermline.
Service Type: Contracted.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from staff.

Service 95: Leven – St Monans – Anstruther – Crail – St Andrews
Proposal: Adjust route through Lundin Links westbound. The route will continue along Drummochy Road onto Crescent Road and out onto Leven Road instead of turning off Drummochy Road and following around Emsdorf Road.
Service type: Partly Contracted.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from staff.

Service 97: Leven – Upper Largo – St Andrews
Proposal: The 0735 Leven to St Andrews Monday to Friday journey will run at 0745. The 1700 St Andrews to Leven Monday to Friday journey will run at 1715.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from customers.

Service 747: Halbeath P&R – Inverkeithing – Ferrytoll P&R – Edinburgh Airport
Proposal: Revised evening peak timetable.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from staff and customers.

Service X24/X26: St Andrews/Dundee – Glenrothes – Halbeath P&R – Dunfermline – Kincardine – Glasgow
Proposal: X24 will no longer serve Braehead shopping centre. X24 & X26 will now serve Pittsburgh Road and Fife Leisure Park.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Low number of passengers using the service to Braehead shopping centre. Re-routed to offer more direct journeys to Fife Leisure Park.

Service X27: Leven – Kirkcaldy – Halbeath P&R - Dunfermline – Kincardine – Glasgow
Proposal: X27 will now serve Pittsburgh Road, Fife Leisure Park and Cowdenbeath. Additional journeys from Dunfermline to Kirkcaldy on Saturday morning.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Re-routed to offer more direct journeys to Fife Leisure Park, and provide faster link between Cowdenbeath and Kirkcaldy.

Service X37: Chapel – Kirkcaldy – Glenrothes – Pitcairn
Proposal Revised 37 route from Cadham into Glenrothes bus station. The route will be Huntsman’s Road, Cadham Road, Western Avenue, Leslie Road, Rothes Road and Church Street to the bus station. The X37 timing point at the retail park will be moved from Frankie & Benny’s to B&Q.
Service Type: Commercial (Partly contracted: evening and Sundays).
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from staff.

Service X51: Dunfermline – Livingston – Harthill – Glasgow
Proposal: Minor timetable adjustments. Reroute to serve McNeil Drive in Maxim Park.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from staff and a request from local employers in Maxim Park.

Service X52: Dunfermline – Duloch Park – Edinburgh
Proposal: Revise timetable, with no changes to the number of journeys offered.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service X55: Dunfermline – Rosyth – Ferrytoll P&R – Edinburgh
Proposal: Revised timetable in the evening.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service X56: Perth – Kinross – Halbeath P&R – Ferrytoll P&R – Edinburgh
Proposal: The 0445 Perth departure Monday to Friday will now leave at 0422. The 0625 Edinburgh departure Monday to Friday will now leave at 0605. Minor changes to the timetable in the PM Peak. Will now serve all stops between Kelty and Milnathort.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service X57/X58: Dundee – Cupar – Leven – Kirkcaldy – Dalgety Bay – Ferrytoll – Edinburgh
Proposal: Minor timetable adjustments between Edinburgh and Fife. X58 route revised between Craigrothie and Cupar to operate via Ceres and Bridgend.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Following feedback from depot staff.

Service X59: St Andrews – Cupar – Glenrothes – Cowdenbeath – Halbeath P&R – Ferrytoll P&R – Edinburgh
Proposal: Revise timetable. Route to serve Cowdenbeath (see X61) all day, instead of evening-only (as X59A).
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To assist in improving the reliability of the X61.

Service X60: St Andrews – Anstruther – Leven – Kirkcaldy – Halbeath P&R – Ferrytoll P&R – Edinburgh
Proposal: Revised timetable from Edinburgh.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service X61: Leven – Glenrothes – Halbeath P&R – Ferrytoll P&R – Edinburgh
Proposal: Revised timetable. The X61 will no longer serve Cowdenbeath (see X59), now instead travelling directly between Halbeath P&R and Glenrothes.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Perth Area
We are reviewing our commercial services in the Perth and Kinross area, there are minor changes to services that are funded by Perth & Kinross Council, but these are only to maintain connections to our commercial network.

Service 1/2: City Centre – PRI – Letham – Tulloch – City Centre
Proposal: Revised early morning journeys. Remove timing point at Rannoch Road.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service 5/6: City Centre – Moncrieffe – Craigie – City Centre
Proposal: Revised early morning journeys.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service 9: North Muirton – City Centre / Aviva
Proposal: Revised timetable.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service 14/14A: Perth – Almondbank – Pitcairngreen
Proposal: Withdraw service 14A, Perth & Kinross council are looking at alternative options to mitigate the withdrawal.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Due to low number of passengers.

Service 15: St Fillans – Comrie – Crieff – Perth
Service 15A: Stirling – Dunblane – Braco – Crieff – Perth

Proposal: Reduce to an hourly service between Perth and Crieff, commercial journeys withdrawn from St Fillans. Perth & Kinross council are looking at alternative options to mitigate the withdrawal of the commercial journeys from St Fillans.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Since moving to a half hourly service between Perth and Crieff we have not seen the growth in usage we expected so will return to an hourly service.

Service 16 / 16B: Perth – Errol – Invergowrie – Dundee
Proposal: The service 39 will no longer go all the way through to Perth. The service 16 will provide a service between Perth City Centre and Dundee via the Carse of Gowrie. There will be no change to the service 16B (renumbered from 39B).
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service 23: Aberfeldy – Ballinluig – Dunkeld – Bankfoot – Perth
Proposal: Reduce the number of morning journeys.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Due to low passenger numbers.

Service 24: Ballinluig – Pitlochry
Proposal: Adjust timetable to maintain connections with service 23.
Service Type: Contracted.
Reason for proposal: To maintain connections with service 23.

Service 34: Perth – Stanley / Spittalfield (– Blairgowrie)
Proposal: Revise timetable so service now operates between Stanley and Perth off-peak and between Spittalfield and Perth in the peak.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Low passenger numbers using the service between Stanley/Spittalfield to Blairgowrie.

Service 39: Arbroath – Ethiebeaton Park – Dundee City Centre / Ninewells / Kingoodie
Proposal: Service no longer extends to Perth; Dundee – Perth replaced by service 16 (above).
Service Type: Commercial
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability

Service 56: Perth – Bridge of Earn – Milnathort – Kinross
Proposal: Retime morning college journeys from Kinross Monday – Friday.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service 57: Perth – Blairgowrie – Dundee
Proposal: Minor timetable revision. The timing point at Scone Post Office will be moved to Scone, Angus Road at Murray Road.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service 59: Blairgowrie – Coupar Angus – Dundee
Proposal: Minor timetable revision.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Service X56: Perth – Kinross – Halbeath P&R – Ferrytoll P&R – Edinburgh
Proposal: The 0445 Perth departure Monday to Friday will now leave at 0422. The 0625 Edinburgh departure Monday to Friday will now leave at 0605. Minor changes to the timetable in the PM Peak. Will now serve all stops between Kelty and Milnathort.
Service type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability.

Angus Area
Service 23: Forfar Community Campus – Orchardbank / Westfield
Proposal: Commercial journeys withdrawn. See timetable.
Service Type: Partly Contracted.
Reason for proposal: Low passenger numbers using the service no longer making the
service sustainable.

Service 25: Forfar Community Campus – Easterbank
Proposal: Commercial journeys withdrawn. See timetable.
Service Type: Partly contracted.
Reason for proposal: Low passenger numbers using the service no longer making the service sustainable.

Service 34: Brechin Town Circular
Proposal: Commercial journeys withdrawn. See timetable.
Service Type: Partly contracted.
Reason for proposal: Low passenger numbers using the service no longer making the service sustainable.

Service 39: Arbroath – Ethiebeaton Park – Dundee City Centre / Ninewells / Kingoodie
Proposal: Service no longer extends to Perth; Dundee – Perth replaced by service 16 (above).
Service Type: Commercial
Reason for proposal: To improve reliability

Service 75: Ethiebeaton – Dundee
Proposal: Service withdrawn.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Low passenger numbers using the service no longer making the service sustainable.

Service X7: Perth – Dundee – Montrose – Stonehaven – Aberdeen
Proposal: The 0642 Perth to Dundee on a Saturday morning has been withdrawn along with some timetable amendments Monday - Sunday.
Service Type: Commercial.
Reason for proposal: Poor usage of early morning Saturday journey.

Remember - if you want to leave feedback, you have until Friday 3 January 2020 to email us at [email protected]
 
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Looks like the 16 is back to being a perth depot working.

The 23/4/5 forfar town seem to have a reduced PVR of 1 during the day (most times i see these workings they are sometimes empty)

Strange that they are keeping the school AM /evening 34 brechin run
 

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Don't know how they can claim the 30 minute frequency on the 15/A hasn't seen the growth since it was introduced. Would love to see where the pulling the numbers from to back this up.

The worst thing they can do is put it back to every hour, the route between Perth - Crieff has been badly needing a 30 minute service for years. Also surprised they are looking to completely withdraw from St. Fillans.
 

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Don't know how they can claim the 30 minute frequency on the 15/A hasn't seen the growth since it was introduced. Would love to see where the pulling the numbers from to back this up.

The worst thing they can do is put it back to every hour, the route between Perth - Crieff has been badly needing a 30 minute service for years. Also surprised they are looking to completely withdraw from St. Fillans.
I wonder if its so Perth depot can operate the 16 again. Got to get the extra drivers/buses from somewhere...
 

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All the changes have gone into the TC, which was very fast 2 day turn around? I take it not much complaints were not raised about these changes? Im surprised at the Fife express going into Odean but could benefit people. Look at the change to the Forth valley Hospital only adds a few mins and its grow big time, there always passengers getting on and off going both ways.

The company is still short of coaches, this is never ending.. Where could you an extra 5 coaches?
 

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All the changes have gone into the TC, which was very fast 2 day turn around? I take it not much complaints were not raised about these changes? Im surprised at the Fife express going into Odean but could benefit people. Look at the change to the Forth valley Hospital only adds a few mins and its grow big time, there always passengers getting on and off going both ways.

The company is still short of coaches, this is never ending.. Where could you an extra 5 coaches?

There's also a new variation of the 73 to part replace the 75.
 
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Can't see the Glasgow services lasting long going into the leisure park, the route for Glasgow Airport is long enough as it is aswell, into Halbeath P&R then in through the leisure park will add a bit of time I would imagine, they've already got the 19s going in there from Halbeath P&R it's easy enough to change over in there, I remember the M91 going into the leisure park aswell and that didn't last long
 

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Recently displaced ones off citylink 900 (541** triaxles)? Yeah they are getting on now and been worked hard but good stop gap maybe.
Are they still floating about? In the couple of weeks before the new coaches launched, the Stagecoach 900s seemed to be mainly Megabus or Citylink Gold Astromegas
 

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One of Ferrymills B13's is at Glenrothes depot. I think it's fm41 again. Covering for 54103 which had a bash in Cumbernauld recently.
 

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