Stagecoach Group (General Discussion re Stagecoach buses, Megabus, MagicBus etc)

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  1. Robertj21a

    Robertj21a Established Member

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    Still dramatically cheaper than the other London tours. Ideal for students etc who love the Megabus concept.
     
  2. ANDREW_D_WEBB

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    Just booked two tickets on a tour for less than a fiver, including booking fee!
     
  3. extendedpaul

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    First seat costs £1, second £3.21, I just booked two for £4.21 plus the 50p booking fee to give it a go on a day when we are in London anyway.

    I've had a play with the booking system on several dates and for three people two pay £1 each, total £5.21, for four the total is £8.42, five tickets cost £13.75 but six tickets total £14.75, all plus one 50p booking fee.
    The system seems to be set up with several £1 tickets but spread out thus preventing two people travelling together for £2.
     
  4. overthewater

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    I thought this was common knowledge, Ie that's how it works, the quicker you buy the cheaper it is...

    Megabus ads promising £1 seats are banned
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43562112

     
  5. extendedpaul

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    I don't see why Megabus has been singled out for using this sort of marketing. There may only be one seat priced at £1 per service but at least it does exist and isn't really that hard to secure. Anyone who expects to get half a dozen seats for £6 on a long distance coach service is a bit naive in my opinion ! What about all the flights, holidays and live shows offered at prices that are designed to lure people in and then either piled high with unavoidable extra costs or stated to be sold out?

    Without Megabus as competition I suspect National Express would charge significantly higher fares so long may they continue to offer a budget coach service.
     
  6. TheGrandWazoo

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    They haven’t been singled out. Ryanair has been similarly reported to the ASA http://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/01/04/asa-grounds-misleading-ryanair-and-lastminutecom-ads

    It happens in a range of industries and Megabus has fallen foul this time.
     
  7. extendedpaul

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    Interesting. I don't remember seeing a similar story in the news about Ryanair but then I don't fly anywhere so perhaps wouldn't have noticed it.

    The Megabus story just seems a bit of a storm in a teacup to me. Far worse misleading advertising around than what Sid says !!
     
  8. 4cryingoutloud

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    I expect a day trip to start and finish in the same place, so if I can't buy a return ticket for £1 then the criticism seems accurate: it'd actually be "from £2" assuming you can find two cheap singles there and back on the same day.
     
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    There was a time (not that long ago) when there appeared to be run in between Ryanair and the ASA every month! Far be it from me to suggest the fuss about the ad each time meant the message was seen by more people then ever saw the original ad!
     
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    If megabus have to remove £1 from the advertising then the end result will probably be *no* tickets for £1. The £1 fares exist primarily for marketing reasons.
     
  11. Jordan Adam

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    Stagecoach North Scotland have won 3 of the 4 Aberdeen City Council tenders that start at the end of next month.

    217 is a new service.
    94 goes back to it's 2014 - 2017 route and for the first time will be operated by Stagecoach (Previous Central Coaches ltd)
    15A is currently operated by First, This change seems a bit daft as First run the service just now and they will continue to run the day variant "15" which is not a tendered service.

    Kingswells Monday to Saturday Service.
    Service 217: Union Square and Upperkirkgate to Kingswells, via Holburn Junction, ARI and Lang Stracht
    Airyhall Evening Service.
    Service 15A: Union Square to Airyhall, via Holburn Junction, Seafield and Craigiebuckler
    Aberdeen Crematorium Shuttle Bus.
    Aberdeen Royal Infirmary to Aberdeen Crematorium, via Woodend
     
  12. overthewater

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    So you never expected that?
     
  13. Jordan Adam

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    Not at all, everyone is shocked about the 15A and 217. 94 less so.
     
  14. Bantamzen

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    I'd say that would be a given, and a good example of why its not always a good idea to go running to organisations like the ASA simply because someone somewhere didn't get what they wanted. Anyone with half a brain would have realise that the £1 seats would be extremely limited (hence the "From" in front), no long distance coach company could possibly run & be viable for £55 per journey!
     
  15. bb21

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    Exactly. Now they may have to start advertising "fares start from £5" or such like, and you will almost certainly lose all the £1 and £3 fares. I can't see availability of the lower price tiers being massively increased.

    At least, a "victory" can be claimed, by everyone losing. :lol::{
     
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    That point was made on Twitter yesterday and the reply was that £1 seats would not be disappearing but marketing would be changed. Then someone challenged the marketing on the London sightseeing tours and the reply to that was that at least 10% of seats on each service would cost £1. On the services I checked if six seats were booked three were priced at £1 so that appears to be true.

    Probably not but hopefully they will increase the number of £1 seats to 10% on other services by spreading them out as they seem to be doing on the sightsee-ers. Offering the £1 seat(s) at random has been tried in the past but has always reverted to first seat sold.
     
  17. overthewater

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    All that means is there be more higher end fares instead of 3-6 quid fares
     
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    I have just booked a £1 Megasightseeing.com tour for Wednesday 25th April. Assuming I go (if I can't I have only lost £1.50) I will report back.
     
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    There is always one who complains and spoils it.It said from £1 not all tickets.For students Megabus has made travelling easier
     
  20. Arctic Troll

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    Megabus tickets aren't from £1, though, as you can't avoid the 50p booking fee. No matter how many £1 tickets you buy, the average will always be more than £1.

    The adverts should show a more typical fare. I don't see why this is controversial.

    Now to go after Stagecoach for their "from £xx" adverts on the trains, where you can only ever get the cheapest tier at 11pm on a Tuesday in February.
     
  21. route101

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    Nat ex Glasgow to Bristol overnight £62 .You wont see that on the London routes from Glasgow
     
  22. Wirewiper

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    Stagecoach South and Reading Buses have come to an agreement, whereby from Monday 16th April Reading Buses will take over the Reading-Hartley Wintney section of route 7 which currently operates between Reading and Aldershot. Reading Buses will continue to Fleet Station, via the direct route (A323, The Oatsheaf and Fleet Road). Stagecoach route 7 will continue to provide a service to Elvetham Heath and Calthorpe Park, and will extend within Hartley Wintney to serve the Phoenix Green area.

    Reading Buses route 7 will continue to accept all Stagecoach season tickets until they expire, and both operators will issue tickets that allow through journeys to be made.

    Route 8 between Reading and Farnborough will be withdrawn after Friday 13th April due to low passenger numbers. Stagecoach routes 406 and 408 will provide alternative services between Eversley, Yateley and Farnborough for school and college students.

    No staff are transferring, but Reading Buses will acquire a pair of Stagecoach South Dennis Trident/Alexander ALX400 double deckers for their reserve fleet.
     
  23. Volvodart

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    https://www.stagecoachbus.com/news/...stagecoach-confirms-closure-of-lochaber-depot

     
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    PART of the local service. So the rest would have to be tendered (at what price) and, if this were possible in the past, why didn’t Stagecoach tender on that basis.

    Also, look at the flip side. Shiel get awarded X amount of work. It’s then taken off them as the unlucky former operator needs it to underpin their other local ops. How would you feel if you were Shiel’s proprietor?
     
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    More changes are on the way for the Highlands, this time at the northern end.... https://www.stagecoachbus.com/news/...s-invited-to-help-shape-caithness-bus-network

    Big point, Their make the claim "Stagecoach is eager to gather as much information as possible" but then say "Both the event and transport have limited availability." Hence a crazy idea put on a bigger bus if need be....
    That hotel can hold 120 seats if needed.... Also why not put the forthcoming proposals on the website? IF you really eager to get information than make a proper effort...


     
  27. Arctic Troll

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    Stagecoach were offering part of the network, but with no explanation as to the cost of the rest. Not to mention the lack of a competitive tender for services already being run by another company (who would then lose revenue and therefore jobs), which Stagecoach presumably either lost or chose not to compete in before.

    A very snide political statement from a very snide company, IMO.
     
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    Stagecoach have been having a torrid time in Orkney. A school bus was withdrawn after mushrooms were noticed growing INSIDE the vehicle by pupils travelling on it while I was told that breakdowns were commonplace.
    A meeting similar to that being proposed for Caithness has already taken place but I've heard nothing more at present
     
  29. Jordan Adam

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    Orkney has been having reliability issues for quite a while now. A pair of Tridents (18069 & 18146) have moved up from Aberdeen for the summer period to provide additional capacity and aid reliability.

    The 35 (Aberdeen - Banff - Elgin) currently has an awful reliability record. The B9Rs being used have had 6 years of being ragged on the 10 and it's really showing. They just drop like dead flies on a daily basis!
     
  30. Volvodart

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    It does seem rushed, as they are only informing Highland Council what they are proposing this week, although it is no surprise to locals as there have been rumours going around about Stagecoach wanting to make changes. Of course, the timing might have depended on whether or not Stagecoach have got the long term contracts they gained short term when Andrews Coaches went bust, and the need to change the services for the summer holidays.
     
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