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Discussion in 'Buses & Coaches' started by HY_4273, 23 Jan 2017.
Interesting, as that certainly does remove the ability to use D1-licenced drivers.
I found a Youtube video of that from on board. Crikey, that rattles like sin.
But also comfortable - potentially heading towards car standards of comfort, which is absolutely necessary.
I thought they were 16 + 8 ?
Edit: No I was right it's total capacity of 22 but not that it's 8 standing when 16 are seated.
Could they still use D1 drivers on routes where the standing isn't used?
No. What determines the applicability of D1 is the registered capacity of the vehicle, to be found on the V5. So it needs to be a semi-permanent change. (You can up it again, but each time you change it the V5 needs to be changed and an inspection may be required). And of course the signage would need to be changed.
I'm not sure on the type of minibus but I went in one operated by BOBH on a day trip from York last year which had high back seats in a 2+1 formation. I was on the single seat side and found it OK but I'm not sure I would have liked to be the aisle side of the side with double seats.
however minibuses have been traditionally sold in the retail channels and in the uk pre 1997 anyone witha full 'car' licence could drive upto 16+1 ( and those who passed before 1997 and aren't medically restricted or let it lapse at 70 still can - but not for hire or reward - and there;s osme interestign jurisprudence on that )
Im not sure why High back seats are troublesome? In Scotland no one had trouble with them, Fife, Eastern and Clydeside all had DP seats.
Was it just VRs they had trouble with, swapping them for Lodekkas from English companies?
High back seats and small windows mean less of a view.
Busaholic - you must be almost as ancient as me !!
The problem with these vehicles is, if the service becomes too successful, they could, like many other similar schemes in Ireland with the City Imps and other European cities, become a victim of their own success when they become too small.
If that happens get some Solos in and maintain the frequency, and send them elsewhere to have the same effect. Sounds like a profitable service upgrade to me.
Probably more so, if truth be told.
Current vehicles on the route are Solos.
What they're doing is doubling the frequency and (give or take) halving the capacity per vehicle - so there's still the same (actually slightly more) seats in the same timeframe as now.
It's 17 passenger seats and all up capacity of 22.
I just hope this idea does work, but if it doesn't where else could there try in the uk?
The experiment might of course prove they can actually fill a high-spec Solo at the higher frequency too. There will be a lot of surveying, stats and monitoring to do on the concept.
It seems a fairly decent concept for most small towns, really. But if it fails there, they could probably be downseated to 17 and no standees and used in rural areas to keep costs down there. A similar vehicle (a Renault of some kind) does a shuttle around Silverdale meeting trains, for instance.
http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co...rtial_reprieve_for_their_popular_shuttle_bus/ (though showing a different bus)
Seeing it at the station meeting the train makes me feel all warm and fuzzy - very Swiss style.