Stagecoach NW fleet changes

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  1. Tom B

    Tom B Established Member

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    The ALX400s have, IIRC, all been converted - they're non-standard. However, Lothian actually maintain their vehicles - unlike most operators who will leave things broken until the bus won't move.
     
  2. mbonwick

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    I think you may be right To, the fleetlist has 170xx as "Alexander ALX400 10.5m H51/26F" and the 18xxx as "Alexander ALX400 H47/28F"


    I wonder if leaving some of the roof is to do with the likelihood of collecting trees?
     
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    20775 has probably been written off, after having had a disagreement with a wide load:

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    From www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/

    Fortunately, the driver got off with only relately minor injuries.
    30342 has recently arrived at Kendal, presumably as cover for the los of 20775.

    From www.bus-enthusiast.com , when 30342 was with SC Merseyside.
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    Yep, I've just had an e-mail confirming that 20775 is going for scrap, along with Titan 11100 and several B6s.
     
  4. driver9000

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    Noted 14195 & 14196 working out of Morecambe garage alongside 14204 & 14208 the other day.
     
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    Yes, they're the only Leyland Olympians left at Morecambe, along with 14235.

    IMHO it seems pointless keeping 14195/6 and removing 14201-03,205-7, 209-10 because 1419x are H reg and 142xx are J reg, and so are newer!

    All the ex-LakesLink Olympians (16330-340) have come out of the paintshops after refurb and are waiting to enter service. I don't know where as yet though.

    FWIW, 30342 is a B6 with Wright Endurance bodywork. It's actually numbered wrongly as it's low floor and therefore should be 31xxx. It's believed it was/is a prototype of some sort.
    I've heard that at some point in it's life it had some major welding done on it's chassis to cure sever rusting/corrosion.
     
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    Lancaster's Trident 18362 was unveiled in Morecambe & Wise livery today. Pictures to follow when I find 'em.
     
  7. RJ

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    I was on 17001 the other day (we still have a few "heritage" Tridents down here), it seemed like a strong performer - although it's technically not Stagecoach any more.
     
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    Yeh, although about IIRC 1.1tonnes heavier than a Volvo Olympian, Tridents do seem to get off the mark quicker. Possibly due to larger engines, but I don't really know.
     
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    I wouldn't have thought the S-reg batch were that quick off the mark - their 3-Speed Voith gearboxes ensure that the pullaway is smoother but slower. ZF boxed buses are a bit quicker off the mark - the Volvo Olympians such as this one put the acceleration on low floor lower-rated buses in London to shame.
     
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    Northern Counties body ;) We used to have some of them round here - standard engine, but really really light. Went like **** off a shovel.

    I don't think the 170xx we have here are 3 speed - they do some fairly long runs with a lot done at high speed.
     
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    Sorry, just spotted this post. That wouldn't be the company based in Buckie, would it (or is that the wrong Mayne I'm thinking of?)? I certainly don't remember any bus/coach of theirs to be very old (considering they replace them often).
     
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    The Volvo Olympians at Morecambe are quicker off the mark than a Trident. The S reg Tridents do indeed have a 3 speed gearbox as they were designed for city work, the newer ones from Manchester would have been better out on the 40 & 41 routes.

    I remember driving the short Volvo Olympians with NC bodies (16243-16245) that Morecambe had allocated to it, horribly uncomfortable cramped cabs with a left foot pedestal that just made it smaller - however they were incredibly fast off the mark and very fast cruising speed - I got up to 70mph on the M6 once and it still wanted to keep going
     
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    So much for speed limiters....
     
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    The old Leyland Tiger coaches (220, 221, 624) from Heysham Travel were just the same :D
     
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    :roll:
    Two wrongs don't make it right, but... :roll:
     
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    Maximum speed on a motorway for a PSV is 70mph

    Table from the highway code here:

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070304

    Volvo Olympians and Leyland Tigers are both under 12m (as was my Volvo B10M-62) I was perfectly legal to drive at 70mph when the conditions were right.

    The Maynes operator is unrelated to the one based in Buckie - who are still going as far as I know.

    Fonud a link to some photos of Trident 18362 carrying the Morecambe & Wise livery:

    http://gez.fotopic.net/c1522728.html
     
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    Not as far as I'm aware, never been on it, but I've seen it more times than I can count.
     
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    The S+T-reg ones are, I had to crouch when I went upstairs on 17001. You don't get the luxury of a back window on the lower deck either :(. We also have some low height S-reg DLAs in London (Arriva DAF DB250LFs). The sooner they go the better, they're notorious for being the slowest buses in London :shock:
     
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    Ah, strange. I always had it down as 56mph, similar to trucks for some reason. :???: Why I thought that, I'll never know...

    Thanks for that, it appears they have grown from strength to strength from what I have gathered.

    Big fan of their show and it's great to see them being championed to this day. :)
     

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