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Storm Eowyn Disruption - 24/1/25

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Hospitals too...

It was essential during Covid.

Only part of Scotland is Red. Many places are closed outside of the Red areas.

You appear just to be looking for reasons to complain! I think the vast majority of people looking at the images on the news would agree that the measures taken have been proportionate and sensible.

Local to me, the nuclear power station and it's ancillary facilities had a limited number of beds for people. In this weather, non-essential staff are told to stay away, and only process workers turn up for shift, with a one-in one-out process so critical processes are never unattended.

The water processing facilities don't have any accommodation like that, but now all have Remote Access to SCADA, so staff can monitor and control processes from home, and most will alert staff if there's an issue - they already do this overnight as they aren't (generally) 24/7 staffed. Most site staff will have some form of 4x4 transport provided, as well as comprehensive training on using it, including when it's better to leave systems tripped out than travel.

(I've not worked for either directly, but have supported both)


Similar. Office staff will be off/WFH if possible. Medical staff such as Nurses, Drs, HCAs, midwives are expected to get to and from hospital. During the last bad spell, one of the gynecology Registrars couldn't make it home from our local hospital so he went back to offer assistance and the midwives shoved him in a spare delivery room for a sleep with the threat they'd kick him out if they needed all 6 rooms - unlikely given the weather!


Tesco announced they were closing all stores in red areas today for staff and customer safety. Seems fairly sensible to me.

What doesn't is my LA, who despite telling their own staff to work from home today were telling schools they shouldn't shut today and pupils should go in as normal. Utter folly, predicted windspeed of over 85MPH at my kid's school. Times like this I really miss my weather station - the anemometer seized up as it wasn't as waterproof as it needed to be for Cumbrian weather!

Thanks - interesting to hear that re. power stations. NHS staff being expected to make their way to work is a little poor, but presumably there just isn’t scope to provide enough accommodation.
 
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was its next trip to be Edinburgh to Cologne, by any chance?
No. It's now on Flightradar making an approach to Stansted. Ryanair did get a few flights in and out of Edinburgh this morning, but nothing else.
 

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There’s a Ryanair flight from Stansted to Edinburgh, which after circling a bit and then attempting to land, is now being diverted to… Cologne*! Give them their due for trying, but jeez.

*according to what is shown on Flight Radar 24 at the moment

It has landed back at Stansted
 

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Thanks - interesting to hear that re. power stations. NHS staff being expected to make their way to work is a little poor, but presumably there just isn’t scope to provide enough accommodation.

Even so I suspect some non-essential appointments will be rescheduled and it will revert to just dealing with emergencies and patients who have already been admitted.
 

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I think the vast majority of people looking at the images on the news
Funnily enough, they only send the news teams where it's bad, not where it's a bit windy.
would agree that the measures taken have been proportionate and sensible.
A lot are.
The Tay Road Bridge is now closed to all, (since I originally posted by the way), which according to them is over 80mph. It's often closed to high sided vehicles which is 60 mph and relatively normal for the Bridge.
 

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Funnily enough, they only send the news teams where it's bad, not where it's a bit windy.

The Glasgow subway is within the red zone and people shouldn’t travelling anyway. It just seems a little excessive for people to criticise businesses just outside the red zone for taking the decision to close.

A judgment call needs to be made, and it’s much better to close unnecessarily than encourage people to make dangerous journeys.

The Tay Road Bridge is now closed to all, (since I originally posted by the way), which according to them is over 80mph. It's often closed to high sided vehicles which is 60 mph and relatively normal for the Bridge.

That makes sense.
 

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You appear just to be looking for reasons to complain! I think the vast majority of people looking at the images on the news would agree that the measures taken have been proportionate and sensible.



Thanks - interesting to hear that re. power stations. NHS staff being expected to make their way to work is a little poor, but presumably there just isn’t scope to provide enough accommodation.
I'm sure Davestar would be one of the first to blame management and/or staff if a serious incident were to occur during a severe weather front.
 

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The Glasgow subway is within the red zone and people shouldn’t travelling anyway. It just seems a little excessive for people to criticise businesses just outside the red zone for taking the decision to close.
Indeed. The fact that a location is outside the designated red zone does not guarantee it immunity from hazardous occurrences.
 

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Usually the TV news reporter stands on a sea wall with the waves crashing behind them! :rolleyes:
It's straight from the US Network model.
The laughable thing is David Wallace Lockhart on BBC News is standing right outside the BBC Pacific Quay building.
 

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One wonders how the Glasgow Underground, which runs entirely in tunnel, has needed to be closed. Just when it might have been a useful service with any surface transport disruption.
Two immediate thoughts. 1)Needs staff to be able to get to work in order for it to run and 2) risk of inundation. Anyway hasn’t ScotGov ordered suspension of all public transport in the Central Belt?

Indeed. The fact that a location is outside the designated red zone does not guarantee it immunity from hazardous occurrences.
Or from its staff needing to travel from or through red areas.
 
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So lucky here in East Anglia. GA only cancelled some first trains to use as proving runs but some of those even got reinstated for passengers. Standby coaches provided but not needed at principal locations. My trains so far have run with the normal Swiss style precision this morning.
Not anymore I’m afraid. Fallen tree near Shenfield reported. 1Y37 appears to be the service involved.
 

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Anyway hasn’t ScotGov ordered suspension of all public transport in the Central Belt?
Some bus and coach operators were running first thing, ceasing by 1000, when the red warning period began, and hoping to resume some time after the scheduled end at 1700.

I don't think they could actually 'order' suspension, just advise.
 

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Everything seems to be running smoothly through Dawlish, for example 1S49 passed through 3 minutes early.
 

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Not anymore I’m afraid. Fallen tree near Shenfield reported. 1Y37 appears to be the service involved.

Around 200-300 passengers onboard apparently. Pantograph taken off by the tree. I’m not that way until later today.
 

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Yep. Absolutely nothing happening on GEML for almost an hour now. Getting a bit nippy!

There’s now a reduced service on the Electric lines to Shenfield, so at worst it’s Elizabeth line into London if GA are turning at Shenfield. Still nothing departing Liverpool Street currently it seems though.
 

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So lucky here in East Anglia. GA only cancelled some first trains to use as proving runs but some of those even got reinstated for passengers. Standby coaches provided but not needed at principal locations. My trains so far have run with the normal Swiss style precision this morning.

There's not even any speed restrictions on Ely -> Kings Lynn, which is good proof that this is basically a non-event around here!

That said, it sounds very unpleasant in other parts of the country. Just heard from someone in Blackpool where it has been very unpleasant overnight. Trains around there still seem to be running though - albeit it looks like they were briefly suspended for an hour or so.
 

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On Avanti to Manchester, smooth at the moment! Tricky part is getting from Piccadilly to Bolton, can't find a direct train running.

Have the option of getting to Oxford Road, even walking, for the 1527 dep P5.

Will check Victoria now!
 

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There’s a Ryanair flight from Stansted to Edinburgh, which after circling a bit and then attempting to land, is now being diverted to… Cologne*! Give them their due for trying, but jeez.

*according to what is shown on Flight Radar 24 at the moment
What happens (would have happened?) if it couldn't have got back to the UK for a while and presumably without most passengers having passports on them?
 

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Teeside and the North Yorkshire moors should be fairly protected from the worst of the winds. I don't think there's a risk.

I thought it was a nice touch to run the school services, we're talking about a really rural area where hiring taxis or a replacement bus would have been difficult.
The reasons why there can't be a passenger service are probably complex. It's never as easy as saying "Well, the weather's fine here, let's run a train service".
The thing is they haven't explained why and perhaps they don't have enough time to do so. So people will criticise them, even if it's unjust, as they dont know any better, as no one has told them.

People can be cynical. Some politicians forster such things withij people, with how they go on and what they say.
 
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