Super 60s

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  1. RailwaysToday

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    Does anyone have technical data for the overhauled Class 60s? I'm intrigued to know whether the "super" tag is justified.
     
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    I'm wondering as well. I just saw on Youtube that 60007 had failed in darkest West Wales and was brought back to margam by a Shed. Whatever they've done to them, it doesn't seem to have conspicuously improved reliability much.
     
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    Wow Second time failing in a couple of weeks and hasn't 054 Failed as well
     
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    Seems the inverted commas around "super" are well placed by the sound of it! ;)
     
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    60054 was well hidden in Tyne yard the other day after failing then worked to Toton l/e presumably after attention

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    60019 in trouble today on 6M82 1245 Walsall to Tunstead.Failed near Tamworth and rescued by 66200 from Nottingham.
     
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    60019 is not a super 60.

    The others have had no significant mods as yet, but are fully overhauled machines, but we must expect a few teething troubles.
     
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    It is notable that nowadays when a loco receives an overhaul, it is so unusual that it is regarded as being 'super'. 25 years ago, all locos received one every few years!
     
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    In my time on the freight side of things I NEVER failed with a class 60. Failed a few times with 66's though. Ratio I spent on 60's to 66's 1/3 to 2/3.

    I did rescue a failed 60 in Birkett tunnel once, it had run out of fuel. The train was 6E13 from Kirkby Thore. Therefore not a mechanical failure but driver brain cell failure.
     
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    **** warning: geek alert ****
    Of course we should remember that "super" simply means "over", so a "Super-60" could simply be a 60 with extra twiddly bits, with no implication with regards to power or reliability. (Though why add those twiddly bits if they don't improve either is another question. I suppose it could be to incorporate mechanisms for which spare parts are currently available)
     
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    Have heard that 60074 is next for the super overhaul once the current machine is completed. That is 60091 I think.
     
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    91 is done picture on WNXX .

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    A great site and a group that is well worthy of our support if we want to help in the preservation of at least one of these fantastic locomotives.
     
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