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(Moderator note: This is a thread for 442 diagrams; also see: Class 442s - storage, refurbishment and redeployment in the Traction & Rolling stock section if you wish to discuss the trains themselves)

These are the long term plan 442 diagrams from May to December 2019, obviously please note that not all of these diagrams will be operating as of the 19th May. It is merely intended to give people an idea of where the 442s will be running in the long term. All diagrams run as pairs.

Monday to Friday
5B92 0511 Bournemouth Depot to Southampton Airport Parkway 0648
1B92 0651 Southampton Airport Parkway to London Waterloo 0801
1P19 0830 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1008
1P34 1045 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1223
1P37 1300 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1435
1P52 1515 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1653
1P55 1730 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1909
5P05 1929 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton Depot 1939

5B89 0521 Bournemouth Depot to Poole 0530
1B90 0545 Poole to London Waterloo 0746
1P17 0800 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 0936
1P32 1015 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1151
1P35 1230 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1408
1P50 1445 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1624
1P53 1700 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1836
1P68 1915 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 2051
1B69 2105 London Waterloo to Poole 2329
5B70 2340 Poole to Bournemouth Depot 2349

5P16 0538 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth Harbour 0553
1P16 0615 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0754
5Y03 0803 London Waterloo to Clapham Yard 0831
5B85 1810 Clapham Yard to London Waterloo 1829
1B95 1848 London Waterloo to Poole 2108
5B96 2117 Poole to Bournemouth Depot 2126

5P20 0647 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth Harbour 0701
1P20 0714 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0852
1P23 0930 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1108
1P38 1145 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1323
1P41 1400 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1534
1P56 1615 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1754
1P59 1830 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 2009
1P74 2045 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 2227
1P77 2300 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 0035

5G22 0715 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth Harbour 0729
1G22 0745 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0928
1P25 1000 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1134
1P40 1215 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1352
1P43 1430 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1608
1G60 1715 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1859
1P63 1930 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 2108
5P64 2133 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton Depot 2147

1P12 0512 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0651
1P13 0700 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 0836
1P28 0915 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1054
1P31 1130 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1308
1P46 1345 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1523
1P49 1600 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1734
1P62 1745 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1929
1P65 2000 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 2136
5P65 2146 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton Depot 2157

Saturday
5P20 0645 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth Harbour 0658
1P20 0715 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0851
1P23 0930 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1108
1P38 1145 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1327
1P41 1400 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1534
1P56 1615 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1751
1P59 1830 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 2008
1P74 2045 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 2227
2P77 2315 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 0054

5P24 0745 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth Harbour 0758
1P24 0815 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0951
1P27 1030 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1208
1P42 1245 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1427
1P45 1500 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1634
1P60 1715 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1851
1P63 1930 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 2108
5P68 2126 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton Depot 2137

5P26 0817 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth Harbour 0832
1P26 0845 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1023
1P29 1100 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1234
1P44 1345 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1457
1P47 1530 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1708
1P62 1745 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1923
1P65 2000 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 2134
5P65 2145 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton Depot 2155

1P18 0645 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0823
1P21 0900 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1034
1P36 1115 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1257
1P39 1330 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1508
1P54 1545 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1723
1P57 1800 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1934
1P72 2015 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 2151
1P75 2230 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 0007
5P75 0014 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton Depot 0024

Sunday
5B93 1750 Bournemouth Depot to Poole 1800
1B94 1818 Poole to London Waterloo 2011
1G97 2055 London Waterloo to Portsmouth & Southsea 2222
5G97 2239 Portsmouth & Southsea to Fratton Depot 2246

5P30 0909 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth Harbour 0923
1P30 0932 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1114
1P31 1130 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1311
1P46 1332 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1514
1P47 1530 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1711
1P62 1732 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1914
1P63 1930 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 2113
1P78 2132 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 2314
1P79 2330 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 0109
5P79 0118 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton Depot 0131

5G94 1655 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth & Southsea 1700
1G94 1726 Portsmouth & Southsea to London Waterloo 1856
1G95 1955 London Waterloo to Portsmouth & Southsea 2122
5G95 2139 Portsmouth & Southsea to Fratton Depot 2146
5P12 0003 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth Harbour 0019

5G96 1755 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth & Southsea 1800
1G96 1826 Portsmouth & Southsea to London Waterloo 1956
1B67 2105 London Waterloo to Poole 2333
5B67 2336 Poole to Poole Sidings 2338
5B84 2355 Poole Sidings to Bournemouth Depot 0006

1P22 0732 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0916
1P23 0930 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1113
1P38 1132 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1313
1P39 1330 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1511
1P54 1532 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1714
1P55 1730 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1911
1P70 1932 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 2114
1P71 2130 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 2311
5P71 2323 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton Depot 2335
 
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I know it's a bit of a long shot but does anybody know the SWR diagrams for the 442 trains on the Sunday 19th may? Thanks for any help..
 

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It’s still fingers crossed to get them in traffic for Sunday 19th May but every effort is being made. Slightly altered diagrams on the first day with only a couple of 10 cars planned to be out covering:

17.26 Portsmouth & Southsea to Waterloo
19.55 Waterloo to Portsmouth & Southsea

18.18 Poole to Waterloo
20.55 Waterloo to Portsmouth & Southsea
 
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It’s still fingers crossed to get them in traffic for Sunday 19th May but every effort is being made. Slightly altered diagrams on the first day with only a couple of 10 cars planned to be out covering:

17.26 Portsmouth & Southsea to Waterloo
19.55 Waterloo to Portsmouth & Southsea

18.18 Poole to Waterloo
20.55 Waterloo to Portsmouth & Southsea
Thanks for that :smile:
 

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All things being equal next week should see 442s working the following services:

06.15/10.45/15.15 Portsmouth Hbr - Waterloo
06.51 Southampton Airport - Waterloo
08.30/13.00/17.30 Waterloo - Portsmouth
18.48 Waterloo - Poole

06.28 Southampton Airport - Waterloo finally becomes it’s booked 10-444 formation.
 

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All things being equal next week should see 442s working the following services:

06.15/10.45/15.15 Portsmouth Hbr - Waterloo
06.51 Southampton Airport - Waterloo
08.30/13.00/17.30 Waterloo - Portsmouth
18.48 Waterloo - Poole

06.28 Southampton Airport - Waterloo finally becomes it’s booked 10-444 formation.
Your input, as always, much appreciated.
 

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All things being equal next week should see 442s working the following services:

06.15/10.45/15.15 Portsmouth Hbr - Waterloo
06.51 Southampton Airport - Waterloo
08.30/13.00/17.30 Waterloo - Portsmouth
18.48 Waterloo - Poole

06.28 Southampton Airport - Waterloo finally becomes it’s booked 10-444 formation.
Ah good, day out to Portsmouth for me next week. Assuming all this happens.
 

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Evening all,

Does anybody have the diagrams for the 442's working tomorrow?

Many thanks
 

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All things being equal next week should see 442s working the following services:

06.15/10.45/15.15 Portsmouth Hbr - Waterloo
06.51 Southampton Airport - Waterloo
08.30/13.00/17.30 Waterloo - Portsmouth
18.48 Waterloo - Poole

06.28 Southampton Airport - Waterloo finally becomes it’s booked 10-444 formation.

Thanks for your info.

So I'm guessing this is 2x 10-442 going to be in operation?
 

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Been informed that the two diagrams do not interwork, ie the one that starts at Fratton finishes at Fratton and same with Bournemouth. Surely that’s not correct?
 

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Shouldn't be the case. 9P16, the 0615 Portsmouth Harbour to Waterloo should go ECS to Clapham Yard, then back out for the 1848 Poole in the evening. The set from 9B92, the 0651 from Southampton Airport Parkway then drops on to the Portsmouth Line for the rest of the day.
 

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Shouldn't be the case. 9P16, the 0615 Portsmouth Harbour to Waterloo should go ECS to Clapham Yard, then back out for the 1848 Poole in the evening. The set from 9B92, the 0651 from Southampton Airport Parkway then drops on to the Portsmouth Line for the rest of the day.

Looking at RTT there are no platforms indicated for these workings at Waterloo so unable to determine whether they will be self contained or will swap as per the original plan. I’ll watch tomorrow morning.

Separately, this introduction should enable at least one, if not two of the short formed peak workings to be strengthened. Anyone any ideas?
 

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It all went wrong with the first up service capped at Havant with a door problem reported.
First down service 12 late into PMH.
What will form the 18:48 Waterloo Poole?
 

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It all went wrong with the first up service capped at Havant with a door problem reported.
First down service 12 late into PMH.
What will form the 18:48 Waterloo Poole?

The 442s went to Fratton Depot for repairs and subsequently up to Clapham Yard ready for the 18.48 timing.
 

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Thanks, I thought that might be the case, shame it failed; 150 plus passengers (oops sorry customers!) not too happy at PTR but an almost empty ex Northam via Havant platform 2! (to pass failed 442) 12 car 450 might have saved the day!
 

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When is the third pair of 442s expected to enter service? This will be good because the SWR Desiro refurbishment rate can go back to normal as well.
 

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Why don’t they send them back to Weymouth and use the 444s to Portsmouth?

Don’t suppose there’s any chance of the Buffet coming back? Have fond memories of my dad buying me a hot chocolate going through Wimbledon when I was about five, and telling me to hurry and drink it because we’d be in Waterloo before we knew it!
 

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Why don’t they send them back to Weymouth and use the 444s to Portsmouth?

Don’t suppose there’s any chance of the Buffet coming back?
They don’t have anything like enough trains to run the current Weymouth service since it went 2 per hour. That’s the same even if all 24 were reactivated. They don’t want to split and join them during the day, and the power supply doesn’t allow 10 car trains to Weymouth.

(The buffet won’t come back. The interior modifications are intended to give them almost the same capacity and general layout as the modified 444s, which also have no buffet. This has all been covered before in the main 442 thread in the rolling stock forum.)
 

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For this week how many sets are in service and which of the above diagrams are they running?
Thanks
 

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For this week how many sets are in service and which of the above diagrams are they running?
Thanks

Same as last week; meaning 2 sets.

5Q92 0511 Bournemouth Depot to Southampton Airport Parkway 0648
9B92 0651 Southampton Airport Parkway to London Waterloo 0801
9P19 0830 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1008
9P34 1045 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1223
9P37 1300 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1435
9P52 1515 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1653
9P55 1730 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1909

5Q05 1929 Portsmouth Harbour to Fratton Depot 1939

5Q16 0538 Fratton Depot to Portsmouth Harbour 0553
9P16 0615 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0754
5Q03 0803 London Waterloo to Clapham Yard 0831
5Q85 1810 Clapham Yard to London Waterloo 1829
9B95 1848 London Waterloo to Poole 2108
5Q96 2117 Poole to Bournemouth Depot 2126
 

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Same as last week; meaning 2 sets.

9B92 0651 Southampton Airport Parkway to London Waterloo 0801
9P19 0830 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1008
9P34 1045 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1223
9P37 1300 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1435
9P52 1515 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 1653
9P55 1730 London Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour 1909

9P16 0615 Portsmouth Harbour to London Waterloo 0754
9B95 1848 London Waterloo to Poole 2108

Aren’t the 2 sets being cycled through though? In that it’s not the same 4 units running day in day out?
 

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Aren’t the 2 sets being cycled through though? In that it’s not the same 4 units running day in day out?

As far as I know, yes. However since the running of two diagrams, I believe so far that it has been exclusive to 2413+2417 and 2406+2414.
 

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As far as I know, yes. However since the running of two diagrams, I believe so far that it has been exclusive to 2413+2417 and 2406+2414.
Nope 2420 has also been out last week, was paired up with 2406 at least one day.
 

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The 442 diagrams recommence from Monday. Info is here:

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/frequently-requested-diagrams.170615/#post-4100685

South Western Railway Class 442.

Valid from Monday 6th January until Saturday 16th May 2020


Mondays to Fridays

Diagram 1
1B90 05.45 POO-WAT
1P17 08.00 WAT-PMH
1P32 10.15 PMH-WAT
1P35 12.30 WAT-PMH
1P50 14.45 PMH-WAT
1G53 17.15 WAT-PMS (via CSD)

Diagram 2
1P20 07.14 PMH-WAT
1P23 09.30 WAT-PMH
1P38 11.45 PMH-WAT
1P41 14.00 WAT-PMH
1P56 16.15 PMH-WAT
1B95 18.48 WAT-POO

Diagram 3
5B92 05+41 XBM-SOA
1B92 06.51 SOA-WAT
1P19 08.30 WAT-PMH
1P34 10.45 PMH-WAT
1P37 13.00 WAT-PMH
1P52 15.15 PMH-WAT
1P55 17.30 WAT-PMH

Diagram 4
1G18 06.43 PMH-WAT (via CSD)
5Y16 08+48 WAT-XCY
5P53 15+52 XCY-WAT
1P53 17.00 WAT-PMH
1P66 19.15 PMH-WAT
1B69 21.05 WAT-POO

Saturdays

Diagram 1
1B16 05.26 POO-WAT
1P19 08.30 WAT-PMH
1P34 10.45 PMH-WAT
1P37 13.00 WAT-PMH
1P52 15.15 PMH-WAT
1P55 17.30 WAT-PMH
1P70 19.45 PMH-WAT
1P73 22.00 WAT-PMH

Diagram 2
1P26 08.45 PMH-WAT
1P29 11.00 WAT-PMH
1P44 13.15 PMH-WAT
1P47 15.30 WAT-PMH
1P62 17.45 PMH-WAT
1B65 20.05 WAT-POO

Diagram 3
1P28 09.15 PMH-WAT
1P31 11.30 WAT-PMH
1P46 13.45 PMH-WAT
1P49 16.00 WAT-PMH
1P64 18.15 PMH-WAT
1P67 20.30 WAT-PMH

Diagram 4
Maintenance at Bournemouth Depot

Sundays

Diagram 1
1B90 16.18 POO-WAT
1G93 18.55 WAT-PMS (via CSD)

Diagram 2
1G92 16.26 PMS-WAT (via CSD)
5Y38 18+18 WAT-XCJ
5B73 21+59 XCJ-WAT
1B73 22.35 WAT-POO

Diagram 3
1B94 18.18 POO-WAT
1G97 20.55 WAT-PMS (via CSD)

Diagram 4
1G96 18.26 PMS-WAT (via CSD)
1B67 21.05 WAT-POO

Codes

CSD - Cobham & Stoke D’Abernon
PMH - Portsmouth Harbour
PMS - Portsmouth & Southsea
POO - Poole
SOA - Southampton Airport Parkway
WAT - London Waterloo
XBM - Bournemouth Depot
XCJ - Clapham Yard
 

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Anyone have any idea how the engineering works this weekend will affect 442 diagrams? I assume they’re not running due to Portsmouth being completely closed
 

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Anyone have any idea how the engineering works this weekend will affect 442 diagrams? I assume they’re not running due to Portsmouth being completely closed

You're correct, first weekend day of operation will be Saturday 1st February due to Staines diversions. Suspect it will be not until after March until Sunday operation commences.

Edit 11/01: Sunday 29th March is the first Sunday with no engineering works that would affect the diagrams. Due to additional engineering works, this is no longer correct.
Edit 09/02: Sunday 10th May is the first Sunday with no engineering works that would affect the diagrams.
 
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