They are, yes. The same style as GWR so rough rather than soft, but hopefully at least look better than the flat cloth.Are the new covers moquette rather than flat cloth?
Interesting. But unfortunately somewhat too little too late, given that the flat cloth has now been fitted across all Desiro units, the rebuilt 458s, some 158/9s and the brand new Arterio's. Perhaps, given the length of time taken to get them into service, the Arterio's will need new cushions regardless!They are, yes. The same style as GWR so rough rather than soft, but hopefully at least look better than the flat cloth.
Not strictly a relivery but coach 77713 of 5868 has been tagged badly with graffiti
Have the leather headpieces been retained?They are, yes. The same style as GWR so rough rather than soft, but hopefully at least look better than the flat cloth.
Yes, they have. There's some photos of the new seat covers here:Have the leather headpieces been retained?
Thanks. Looks exactly the sameYes, they have. There's some photos of the new seat covers here:
I think the hardened commuters will. I have watched many get on and actively look for seats that aren't filthy in appearance.Most people probably wouldn't notice the change though.
Not very easy with the current seat covers of course!I think the hardened commuters will. I have watched many get on and actively look for seats that aren't filthy in appearance.
Definitely not it's more, which is the least filthy.Not very easy with the current seat covers of course!
Acapela Rachel (the TTS voice used on the 707s) also seems to say "standard class only" and "ASDO is isolated" on the 444/450 fleet. not sure if she still says it now that Elinor has been rolled out to the entire 444/450 fleetafaik, the state of announcements curently is:
Celia: 458 and certain 450/444
Elinor: 455, 158/9, 484 and most 450/444
TTS: 707
In terms of livery:
SWR Blue/Grey: 444 (Excl 019), 450, 159/0, 458/4, 701 and 158 (887, 889 and 890)
SWT Blue: 458/5 and 73235
SWT Red: 455 (Excl 868) and 707
SWT White: 159/1 and 158 (880-886)
The only reason i think Elinor hasnt made an appearance on 458s yet is because the PIS system is completely different to the rest of the fleet
All the PIS codes I've been using are the same, regardless of whether it's Elinor or Celia doing the announcements.As far as I understand, all of the Celia announcements are still currently on all stock, just different PIS codes for Elinor announcements which are now present on diagrams and whatnot.
I lived and worked in London until 2012. I recall some LU Met A-stock still displayed pre-1990 route maps - distinguishable by the Hammersmith & City line as the Metropolitan Line.Not necessarily a refurb, but I’ve noticed a 455 has new carriage maps — they look like the same ones from the 701.
(Which is just as well. The maps in the 455 date back as far as 2004!)
What is going on with the 158/9 repaints? When was the last one returned?
Does this still stand?Starting again after the last desiro is painted I believe.
I read in the latest Modern Railways that C6 overhauls are due from next year. This usually involves a repaint amongst other things so I would guess that’s when it will happen.Does this still stand?
The C6's have already been done, it's just that the 158s, 159/1s and some 159/0s are still in SWT livery/vinyl version of SWR livery.I read in the latest Modern Railways that C6 overhauls are due from next year. This usually involves a repaint amongst other things so I would guess that’s when it will happen.
I’ve just checked and that’s definitely what it says. When were they last done?The C6's have already been done, it's just that the 158s, 159/1s and some 159/0s are still in SWT livery/vinyl version of SWR livery.
When they were last painted! As the units have a mix of SWT and SWR liveries, they were going through C6 at the time of the operator change. That was back in 2017, so next C6 being next year is absolutely the timing you’d expect.I’ve just checked and that’s definitely what it says. When were they last done?
Thanks, that’s what I thought. The OP I was replying to implied they had already had their C6 recently.When they were last painted! As the units have a mix of SWT and SWR liveries, they were going through C6 at the time of the operator change. That was back in 2017, so next C6 being next year is absolutely the timing you’d expect.
Those announcements have always been there as manual options which the guard can select to play if need be.Have desiro announcements been updated somewhat? Today I’ve heard Elinor announcements about bicycles, beggars and informing customers that the guard will be walking through the train
They did with Celia (having made use of it a few times).I'm pretty sure the 455s don't have the announcement about beggars either.
Thanks - I don't remember seeing it on the menu since Elinor took over(?)They did with Celia (having made use of it a few times).