SWT (Waterloo) Guard's Job

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mresh91

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Second time they posted it as well. Probably didn't get enough interest/suitable candidates first time round.
 

455driver

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Non commercial so no mucking about with tickets but it will be all suburban work so over 100 stations a day would be normal.

Good use of whistle required to herd the SLF onto the train! ;)
 

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Like the bit at the end of the job description about own transport required due to early / late finishes. Waterloo doesn't have a staff car park so where do the propose you leave your car ?
 

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Like the bit at the end of the job description about own transport required due to early / late finishes. Waterloo doesn't have a staff car park so where do the propose you leave your car ?

Anyone going for the job would probably have to use the night buses (if they still run)
 

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While it's a potentially a few years away, non commercial guards jobs not secure long term especially if tfl /London overground get their way and take over some of the lines.

However, it's a good step in to the railways.
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Salary is terrible for 2016

Why?

Remuneration

£19,925 per annum rising to £29,740 per annum after qualifying plus associated regional allowances.

That's pretty good and with about £2k PA extra in London allowance it is about 31500, for a non-commercial role.

Swt guards are some of the best paid in the country, can't say the same for the drivers.
 

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Anyone going for the job would probably have to use the night buses (if they still run)

London's night bus network is very much still there and still growing (some are 'N' prefixed night routes that are usually two or more day routes joined together, others are 24 hour routes where the same route is followed at all times.)

Frequency varies - some are as frequent as every 10 minutes (every 5 minutes on Friday and Saturday nights) - every 30 minutes is about the minimum.

Depends where you live how many changes will be needed to get to Waterloo.

And bear in mind that with a few exceptions, the night routes stop short of the GLA boundary, e.g. no night buses to Dartford.

TfL's website has a pretty comprehensive journey planner (you can plan by postcode / address - you don't need to know the bus route you want) - or if you prefer old fashioned timetables, the unofficial but pretty reliable London Bus Routes website is the place to go.

The night tube (if and when it happens) will almost certainly lead to some reductions in frequency on night services that parallel underground lines (on Friday and Saturday night that is) but the plan is for new suburban services on routes that don't currently have night buses to connect with the night tube. A few Friday and Saturday night services connecting at North Greenwich and Morden did start in the autumn, as the 'go' instruction was given from the bus bit of TfL before the underground bit deferred the night tube...

Night buses are same fare as day buses and oyster-able subject to the same daily capping (I think a 'day' is something like 0300 one day to 0300 the next)

Night buses do not run the night of Xmas Eve into Xmas Day, or night of Boxing Day in to 27 December - day buses generally run until normal 'last bus' on Xmas Eve, 24 hour routes pack up around midnight (this does create the anomaly that some routes that are busy enough to have a 24 hour service finish an hour or more before 'day routes')

Nothing is guaranteed for the future - a future mayor may have different priorities, and bear in mind that the chancellor has said that TfL's central government funding will be withdrawn over the next few years. (although my cynical side suspects that if London elects a mayor that central government likes, then he might be able to 're-negotiate' this...)

It's hard to imagine a complete withdrawal of night buses - the network has grown steadily since the early 80s (at which point it was still pretty much the same as it had been in the early 50s, with many routes still following the long gone tram lines round Victoria Embankment, and almost no buses running on Saturday nights - the Sunday papers went to press early enough for Fleet Street workers to catch the last day buses home.)
 

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Anyone going for the job would probably have to use the night buses (if they still run)



Long term job security of the guards' role aside, a TFL takeover may at least result in cabs to your place of work if starting very early, as I believe is given to tube drivers.

I'm new to the rail industry but find it staggering that staff undertaking safety critical roles at anti-social hours are expected to get to work by nightbus.
 

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Is there much difference between Waterloo & Wimbledon depots for a non-commercial guard role?
 

Monty

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Surely it's the hours that are bad by industry standards, not the pay?

We have a longer working week when compared to guards in other TOCS. But as someone else said Waterloo's non commercial guards are pushing nearly 31k after inner London allowance. So saying it's terrible is frankly ridiculous.
 

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Is there much difference between Waterloo & Wimbledon depots for a non-commercial guard role?

No not really, the only difference is Wimbledon Guards will have to travel passenger to Waterloo at either the start or end of their shift so they have about half an hour a day doing nothing much.
 

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Only difference is that Waterloo sign Reading and me and few still sign Basingstoke not many do now however. All the traction is the same, but as 455driver said more passing time at Wimbledon than Waterloo.
 

taffy0000

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Hi just wondering if anyone could help me applied for a commercial guard position down in dorset last year had my first assesment at the end of january and pasted all of the exams. But havent heard a thing from swt since. I have emailed them twice but no reply. Dont really know what else todo. Does anyone know how long it takes to get a interview as getting worried as to why i havent heard anything thanks
 
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