Makes sense given lack of work due to Covid and 3 already being off-lease - should it happen, it will be interesting to see the whole 172 fleet together for the first timeRumour I heard is 4 x Chiltern 172s to WMR on loan to cover for 170s to EMR. Dunno if it is true or not.
Would only be compatible with themselves and would problematic therefore if they require rescuing / assistance. A rewire would solve the issue but how much would it cost?Rumour I heard is 4 x Chiltern 172s to WMR on loan to cover for 170s to EMR. Dunno if it is true or not.
They are near identical to the /0s they already have.Would only be compatible with themselves and would problematic therefore if they require rescuing / assistance. A rewire would solve the issue but how much would it cost?
Correct, /0's have had their couplers rewired. Is the cost worth say a lease of a couple of years however. If 4 class 196's somehow managed to get into service if might only be to the end of the year as a lease.They are near identical to the /0s they already have.
Rumour I heard is 4 x Chiltern 172s to WMR on loan to cover for 170s to EMR. Dunno if it is true or not.
There are no 172/1s working for West Midlands on the Snow Hill lines.172/3s are covering for 170's on the HFD route on at least 2 diagrams. 172/1s havn't been seen yet but they may be on the Snow Hill
scrap that comment i made earlier, i read the above properly about not knowing when.Believe the 172/1’s are coming according to a conversation at work. Led to believe they will be in pairs on the Herefords working off Worcester depot. Rewiring of couplers is an easy job, think it’s just a matter of altering a couple of pins on each side. Not sure how soon this is happening. Also led to believe they will remain with WMT on a permanent basis as this will remove the need for 196’s to be used on snow hill services. Chiltern don’t like them as they don’t play nicely with the 168’s due to the different gearboxes/transmission
highly highly doubt they'll stay with WMT permanently. chiltern don't have enough stock as it is
Quite - this seems to be a very sensible transfer of stock between operators.Plenty to be said for it - gets rid of a micro fleet and puts all the 172s in one place and maybe Chiltern's fleet needs will be different post COVID.
highly highly doubt they'll stay with WMT permanently. chiltern don't have enough stock as it is
correct, this was going to happen.I did hear a rumor before the 170 move to EMR was confirmed that there were plans to transfer an equal amount of 170s to Chiltern to convert them to 168s and exchange them for the 172/1s for use on the Snow Hill Lines due to the lack of tripcock equipment for use on the Amersham to Aylesbury route, so wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest with this move. Although as mentioned above, Chiltern will be left with stock shortages as a result.
Why would Chiltern need more stock to cover? Demand has dropped massively: Chiltern, like every operator, will have spare capacity.unless chiltern gets some more LHCS (ex GC mk4s with 67s?) to allow for some 168s to transfer this won't be happening anytime soon im afraid
correct, this was going to happen.
Well given they have already offloaded the "new" slam door set and now 4x172 are going, they disagree with you.unless chiltern gets some more LHCS (ex GC mk4s with 67s?) to allow for some 168s to transfer this won't be happening anytime soon im afraid
correct, this was going to happen.
I will wait until I’ve seen a proper source before asserting that the 172s are definitely goingWell given they have already offloaded the "new" slam door set and now 4x172 are going, they disagree with you.
One of our instructors & a union rep are going down to Wembley on Friday i believe.I will wait until I’ve seen a proper source before asserting that the 172s are definitely going
172102 and 104 moving Wembley to Ilford today for coupler modifications. First unit at Tyesley by/on April 30th.Believe the 172/1’s are coming according to a conversation at work. Led to believe they will initially be in pairs on the Herefords working off Worcester depot. Rewiring of couplers is an easy job, think it’s just a matter of altering a couple of pins on each side. Not sure how soon this is happening. Also led to believe they will remain with WMT on a permanent basis as this will remove the need for 196’s to be used on snow hill services. Chiltern don’t like them as they don’t play nicely with the 168’s due to the different gearboxes/transmission
Thanks for the update.172102 and 104 moving Wembley to Ilford today for coupler modifications. First unit at Tyesley by/on April 30th.
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Guessing that was this?
Are they going to receive temporary branding?Someone feel free to quote the unit numbers, but the Chiltern 172/1 units at Ilford behind the MK3 barrier coach.
I can imagine they will as this avoids confusion with Chiltern (with whom WMR share a large bulk of their network with), but I think when one was on loan to LO in 2012 it remained with Chiltern branding, so I guess it’s a “wait and see” scenario.Are they going to receive temporary branding?
That makes sense.I can imagine they will as this avoids confusion with Chiltern (with whom WMR share a large bulk of their network with), but I think when one was on loan to LO in 2012 it remained with Chiltern branding, so I guess it’s a “wait and see” scenario.
172104 and 172102 got transferred today.Someone feel free to quote the unit numbers, but the Chiltern 172/1 units at Ilford behind the MK3 barrier coach.