TfGM leaflet "Choosing the best value train ticket"

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Mcr Warrior

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:?: Transport for Greater Manchester have issued a little guide "Choosing the best value train ticket. 2016."

Under the section heading "Save Money. Choose the time you travel." it states...

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"Train travel in Greater Manchester is more expensive on weekdays when you travel before 09.30 and between 16.01 and 18.29. These times are called peak times and tickets and travelcards that include travel at these times are called Anytime tickets.

Of course you can save money if you don't travel at these times. Travelcards and tickets that don't let you travel at these times are called off-peak tickets.

Before you choose an off-peak ticket or travelcard, make sure you won't be making any part of your journey during the peak times shown above."

Is this last piece of information correct?

I had previously understood, rightly or wrongly, that if a journey (wholly within Greater Manchester and without changing trains) started before 16.01 but ended at sometime between 16.01 and 18.29, was o.k. on an off-peak ticket.
 
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I had previously understood, rightly or wrongly, that if a journey (wholly within Greater Manchester and without changing trains) started before 16.01 but ended at sometime between 16.01 and 18.29, was o.k. on an off-peak ticket.

ISTR that the mind-numbingly stupid way the restriction is worded means that boarding a train between those times (including when changing trains) is not permitted, but continuing on a train you are already on is fine.
 

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Also, if you're not sure whether you'll be travelling in the afternoon peak, my understanding was that it was fine to buy the Off-Peak ticket and later excess it to an Anytime if you need to. The text above suggests you need to decide beforehand.
 

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Your understanding is correct but this must be done before boarding if there is a ticket office at the station where you board. Obviously a TVM cannot excess so that would not be relevant.
 

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Your understanding is correct but this must be done before boarding if there is a ticket office at the station where you board. Obviously a TVM cannot excess so that would not be relevant.

Time restricted tickets can be changed on the train, except for Advance (and similar) tickets.
 

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It's a gross simplification of course. I imagine they would have had the various day tickets in mind too when they wrote that piece, which cannot be excessed.
 
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