The 01.46am from York to Manchester??

[northernrail2009]

I travelled on the 01.46am from York to manchester the other night and wanted to know why it take so long and also why it takes the route that it does.

That service takes almost a hour from york to leeds and seems to go the long way round leeds to come into leeds from the manchester side then goes out towards huddersfields then after leave there it heads back towards leeds again and does not take the normal route to manchester.

Is there anyone out there that knows the reason for this and it does this monday to friday but not on a sat night and its the whole timetable that is does it for.

very strange!!!!

 

[westcoaster]

enginering works?, diversion route retention?

 

[tbtc]

enginering works?, diversion route retention?

Presumably.

Last time I took the three o'clock in the morning from Sheffield to Manchester Airport it ran the Marple route (rather than Stockport), presumably for similar reasons.

 

[northernbored]

Not sure on exact dates but there doing an awful lot of engineering work (still) between york and leeds so you were probably on a diversion route.

 

[yorkie]

There are many ways to get from York to Leeds, the most practical being via Garforth (23 mins) and via Castleford (35 mins), but a route taking 1 hour is possible - did you reverse? It could have gone via Wakefield or something. I'd say Harrogate is unlikely as I'm pretty sure that line would be shut at night.

Last night there was a 0153 from York, which got to Leeds 0225 (32 mins) via Castleford. It then went to 'uddersfield via Wakefield Kirkgate, which meant it double-backed between Methley Jn and Leeds.

 

[1D53]

There has been track maintenance and inspections etc going on overnight between York and Leeds and Huddersfield and Manchester. Most overnighters are therefore running York to Leeds via Castleford, Leeds to Huddersfield via Morley (usual route) then Huddersfield to Manchester Airport via Brighouse, Rochdale and Salford Crescent (reverse). It may take longer but its better than buses.

Harrogate line is definately out, the boxes are closed, crews don't sign it and I doubt 185's are cleared.

 

[yorkie]

I guess Harrogate has never been used because - apart from the staffing issue - there are so many other ways from York to Leeds, the only bit you have to do is York-Church Fenton*. If the OP's train took nearly an hour it could have gone via Pontefract, Featherstone, then either via Outwood or via the Kirkgate avoider and Methley. I got the Kirkgate avoider on Grand Central last weekend!

* If Church Fenton itself was shut then I guess you could go York-Selby (reverse) then Selby-Leeds (either direct via Garforth or via Castleford)!

 

[1D53]

If the OP's train took nearly an hour it could have gone via Pontefract, Featherstone, then either via Outwood or via the Kirkgate avoider and Methley. I got the Kirkgate avoider on Grand Central last weekend!

TPE York/Manchester don't sign Featherstone or Outwood. The only knowledge down there is Hull drivers who sign Leeds to Crofton via Kirkgate avoider, Hull guards don't sign it. If it took an hour it probably got held up enroute, I do know one day this week (possibly Tuesday) that there were delays as a 66 failed near Midland Road which held up trains (including 1D53).

 

[steve158]

Main reason is route retention.

Main avoiding route is York-Sherburn-Milford-Castleford- Leeds(Via Holbeck), or up to Cas then via Normanton, Wakey Kirkgate, Healey Mills and back on the main at Thornhill LNW.

No TPE Drivers/Guards sign Wakey Westgate or the Featherstone route.

When Stanedge is shut, it's normally reverse at Huddersfield, then up via Brighouse onto the Calder Valley into Man Vic.

 

[tbtc]

It may take longer but its better than buses

I wish we had people with your attitude running the railways

 

[bluenoxid]

I travelled on the 01.46am from York to manchester the other night and wanted to know why it take so long and also why it takes the route that it does.

That service takes almost a hour from york to leeds and seems to go the long way round leeds to come into leeds from the manchester side then goes out towards huddersfields then after leave there it heads back towards leeds again and does not take the normal route to manchester.

Is there anyone out there that knows the reason for this and it does this monday to friday but not on a sat night and its the whole timetable that is does it for.

very strange!!!!

Church Fenton is closed this weekend isn't it?

The Castleford Route is the main one used.

 

[yorkie]

Yep, and they can't be bothered to go via Selby so it's replacement buses or over an hour on a pacer - take your pick

 

[1D53]

Running via Selby isn't as easy as you think though!