The 2024 US presidential election.

[Snow1964]

Split of votes from exit polls, taken from BBC election coverage

Harris - Trump percentages
males 44% 54%
females 54% 44%

white 43% 55%
black 86% 12%
Hispanic/Latino 53% 45%
Asian 56% 38%

Educated (graduate) 57% 41%
no degree 44% 54%

So basically have a country that is split, with white males who are less educated voting for Trump, and females, ethnic, or good education preferring Harris.

Not sure how to put this in polite terms, but seems to suggest the less bright, non-multicultural, faction will be in charge. Oh dear.

Donald Trump wins US election in historic comeback

In a decisive victory, Trump wins a series of swing states, while his Republican Party also gains control of the Senate.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[nlogax]

This is no surprise. Biden left it too late to drop out. Despite the hope and positivity from the Harris camp, Americans just weren't ready for her.

Don't know about you all but I'm at least looking forward to not constantly watching political news and social feeds for the next few weeks. Time to take a breath and go outside.

 

[kermit]

I’m relieved that Trump has got in. Not because I like him or his politics but because at least in the next election he won’t be able to stand again.

Ummm....that is no longer a given. Though the odds of The Great Leveller intervening do, naturally, increase.

 

[nlogax]

I’m relieved that Trump has got in. Not because I like him or his politics but because at least in the next election he won’t be able to stand again.

I am pretty confident he'll be faced with a 25th amendment situation during this final term. His mental acuity and / or his physical health won't make it through the full four years.

 

[Trainguy34]

I am pretty confident he'll be faced with a 25th amendment situation during this final term. His mental acuity and / or his physical health won't make it through the full four years.

The bit I'm not confident about is whether it will be natural or forced

 

[GRALISTAIR]

Biden should have definitely dropped out sooner.

 

[GatwickDepress]

I am pretty confident he'll be faced with a 25th amendment situation during this final term. His mental acuity and / or his physical health won't make it through the full four years.

Watching Trump live, he looks absolutely anaemic. With how much he's deteriorated since 2016 and all the stresses that being president brings, I would not at all be surprised if the 25th Amendment is used within the next couple of years.

 

[wilbers]

Just woke up half an hour ago and am watching Good Morning Britain on ITV - feels like I've woken up in a parallel universe.

 

[dgl]

There should be a lot of women out there who are ashamed with what has happened, you go tell your daughters that sex offenders are OK guys as that's what you have just voted in.

America was seen as a world powerhouse, now it's just a laughing stock, again. Russia must be pretty pleased though, they've got their puppet in the White House. Hopefully we will now increase our support to Ukraine so they can kick Russia out good and proper, Putin might have potentially lost one powerful enemy so we need to show him that we can more than make up for them.

Personally I can't see Trump even lasting a year, he's completely lost it mentally already and would clearly fail any competency or cognitive ability test, you certainly wouldn't be giving him the real nuclear codes.. Hopefully if he tries anything dictator like (which is probably a given) then a secret service employee will accidentally discharge their weapon in Trump's direction and that checks and balances are put on any replacement, though that might not be a given.

 

[Shrop]

We're all waking up this morning to hear Trump crowing about his victory. I look forward to this time tomorrow, waking up to hear about the end of the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, after all he did promise that he would have these wars ended in his first 24 hours. Or did I misunderstand something he said?

 

[wilbers]

We're all waking up this morning to hear Trump crowing about his victory. I look forward to this time tomorrow, waking up to hear about the end of the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, after all he did promise that he would have these wars ended in his first 24 hours. Or did I misunderstand something he said?

Think he may have said that before Ukraine took out their insurance policy in Kursk? though he could well have said it afterwards too.

 

[Smidster]

I’m relieved that Trump has got in. Not because I like him or his politics but because at least in the next election he won’t be able to stand again.

Dictators don't tend to follow those kind of rules.

A very dark day - For anyone who is a woman who is about to lose the right to healthcare, for anyone who isn't a straight white dude, for Ukrainians who will now be Russian and for the economy which will plummet.

 

[DarloRich]

This is just fantastic stuff from across the pond.

Absolutely. I am drinking champagne. Trump has just been announced as 47 president of the USA. Fantastic

Could you set out why you think this?

I’m relieved that Trump has got in. Not because I like him or his politics but because at least in the next election he won’t be able to stand again.

One of the risks that comes with Trump is that he changes the electoral system.

 

[SteveM70]

What odds that during the next four years the constitution is amended to allow those born outside the US to stand as president and Trump to endorse Musk?

 

[DarloRich]

There are going to be few guardrails to control Trump if the Trump party win the White House, Senate , House of Representatives & Supreme Court. Remember, with everything that is coming the Yanks voted for this. They may not get a chance to undo that mistake anytime soon.

They chose an orange coloured, demented, rapist, narcissistic, felon & would be dictator on a revenge mission who tried to ferment a coup when he lost last time to be president. They looked at all of that and his behaviour and decided they wanted more. They can own what is coming.

But at least they will "own the libs", get lower gas prices & didn't vote in a black woman!

We're all waking up this morning to hear Trump crowing about his victory. I look forward to this time tomorrow, waking up to hear about the end of the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, after all he did promise that he would have these wars ended in his first 24 hours. Or did I misunderstand something he said?

I think he actually has to be sworn in first! He doesn't take power until January.

 

[Shrop]

What odds that during the next four years the constitution is amended to allow those born outside the US to stand as president and Trump to endorse Musk?

I think we should all be aware of all manner of possibilities. The control that Musk has over technology means we could all be subject to all manner of propaganda without realising it. We can't even say "Watch this space" because this space might no longer be truthful. Some would say this sounds a touch paranoid, but are those who might say so, really aware of just how much is known about them and others by their mobile phones, laptops, and even their own cars etc?
Let's enjoy this forum and others like it, while there still remains a fair chance that the tentacles of propaganda haven't yet reached this far. Meanwhile I'm glad not to be an "X formerly Twitter" user!

I think he actually has to be sworn in first! He doesn't take power until January.

Ah yes, that will be the first of his host of excuses for failing to deliver on his wild and unrealistic promises!

 

[JamesT]

Biden should have definitely dropped out sooner.

Inasmuch as that might have allowed a proper contest for the replacement, rather than anointing Harris.
Her polling numbers were dropping as the campaign went on, the more people saw the less they liked.
At least it looks like Trump will win the popular vote as well as the Electoral College, so there won’t be the same arguments about the legitimacy of his election.

 

[Whistler40145]

I sincerely feel sorry for the citizens of the United States of America by re-electing Donald Trump, he only cares for one person, himself

 

[danm14]

What odds that during the next four years the constitution is amended to allow those born outside the US to stand as president and Trump to endorse Musk?

The process for amending the US Constitution is so onerous that it would be almost impossible to do this unless it was widely supported by the Democrats.

I suspect the chances of the Democrats supporting such an amendment in the context of a likely Musk nomination is close to zero.

 

[43096]

Personally I can't see Trump even lasting a year, he's completely lost it mentally already and would clearly fail any competency or cognitive ability test, you certainly wouldn't be giving him the real nuclear codes.

Back to the days of Spitting Image when Ronnie had “nuke” and “nurse” buttons next to his bed!

 

[jfollows]

I sincerely feel sorry for the citizens of the United States of America by re-electing Donald Trump, he only cares for one person, himself

Yes, but more than 50% of those who voted did so for him.

I’m not happy with the outcome but I think a lot of the blame is with the Democratic Party who could not find a better candidate out of the millions of potential people, I can’t believe there isn’t another Obama out there. Plus they believed that Trump was an aberration whereas he’s not. He’s what America wants. I don’t, but it’s not down to me. Oh, and my husband at least voted for Harris in North Carolina.

 

[DarloRich]

The process for amending the US Constitution is so onerous that it would be almost impossible to do this unless it was widely supported by the Democrats.

Correct - a super majority is required. However that assumes the players are prepared to follow the rule book and not set fire to the rule book and do what they like!

 

[Whistler40145]

I'm glad that the UK political system means you have to be a Member of Parliament before becoming Prime Minister, unlike in the USA whereby they don't need to know much about politics

 

[Class 466]

I don’t feel as hopeful about the outcome as I did in 2020 - really hope I can come back and correct myself in the coming days.

My gut instinct was right. Time for Americans to own every thing that comes out of there over the next 4 years - especially those that voted third party over Gaza, I hope they’re feeling especially proud of putting so many people’s rights at risk

 

[nlogax]

Trump winning the popular vote was a pretty unexpected twist. Might be a good place to start the inevitable post mortem of the Dems' overnight failure.

 

[Cross City]

I sincerely feel sorry for the citizens of the United States of America by re-electing Donald Trump

I don't. They're idiots.

 

[JamesT]

The process for amending the US Constitution is so onerous that it would be almost impossible to do this unless it was widely supported by the Democrats.

I suspect the chances of the Democrats supporting such an amendment in the context of a likely Musk nomination is close to zero.

As well as the difficulty of changing it, the Republicans were also the home of the ‘Birther’ conspiracy theory around Obama’s origins. Switching to supporting an amendment to allow foreign born presidential candidates would be one hell of a swing.

 

[AlterEgo]

Biden should have definitely dropped out sooner.

Either sooner, so Harris could have done some primaries, or later, so she was able to come into the election on a high. She petered out.

 

[jfollows]

I'm glad that the UK political system means you have to be a Member of Parliament before becoming Prime Minister, unlike in the USA whereby they don't need to know much about politics

You don’t technically have to be a MP in order to be Prime Minister, although in reality convention & precedent mean you do. But this isn’t really relevant to this thread!

 

[Whistler40145]

History could've been made, the first female US President